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[Parse] Discussion of PARSE dialect

BrianH
17-Mar-2008
[2509x3]
Does a bind/copy on its code block every time it is used.
That kind of overhead is usually only worth it when you can't get 
rid of concurrent use any other way.
Wait, USE may not copy in R2 - that could be even worse.
Oldes
17-Mar-2008
[2512]
I should probably not to use the code evaluation so much directly 
in the parse rule block and rather call a function if I need a lot 
of temp variables to process the action.
Henrik
28-Apr-2008
[2513x2]
>> parse [>] [>]
== false
>> parse [>] ['>]
** Syntax Error: Invalid word -- '>

How do you parse that block?
(note this block can only be made without a space at the end in rebol 
2.7)
Oldes
28-Apr-2008
[2515]
I'm using help words like:
	slash: to-lit-word first [/]
	dslash: to-lit-word "//"
	rShift: to-lit-word ">>"
	UrShift: to-lit-word ">>>"
	_greater: to-lit-word ">"
	_less: to-lit-word "<"
	_noteql: to-lit-word "<>"
	_lesseql: to-lit-word "<="
	_greatereql: to-lit-word ">="
Henrik
28-Apr-2008
[2516]
nice, thanks
Oldes
28-Apr-2008
[2517]
>> parse to-block load "<" [_less]
== true
Henrik
28-Apr-2008
[2518]
yep, works
Henrik
11-May-2008
[2519x3]
if I have a rule-block that does not exist in the same context as 
the main parse block, is there a simple way to rebind it without 
composing it into the main parse block? my current solution is to 
bind it to a temp block and use the temp block as a rule in the main 
parse block, which is less than optimal, I think.
set 'html-gen func [
    "Low level HTML dialect"

    data [none! string! tag! url! number! time! date! get-word! word! 
    block!]
    /local cmd blk header row-blk start-tag dr tr pr wr
  ] [
    if get-word? data [data: get data]

    if any [url? data string? data number? data word? data time? data 
    date? data] [out data return true]
    if none? data [return true]

    dr: bind data-rules 'data ; this is the easiest way? can we not bind 
    directly in the parse block?
    tr: bind tag-rules 'data
    pr: bind page-rules 'data
    wr: bind word-rules 'data
    parse data [any [cmd: [dr | tr | pr | wr]]]
  ]
the five last lines in the function are the important ones.
Chris
11-May-2008
[2522x2]
Assuming you want to assign values to function locals from the external 
parse rules, you can a) bind as you are doing, b) create a larger 
context for the function encompassing your rules or c) compile the 
parse rule, either on creation of the function or for each instance.

a)
rule: [set tag tag!]
test: func [data /local tag][bind rule 'data parse data rule tag]

b)
test: use [tag][
    rule: [set tag tag!]
    func [data][parse data rule tag]
]

c)
rule: [set tag tag!]
test: func [data /local tag] compose/only [parse data (rule) tag]


Also, note that when you bind, it alters the original block -- no 
need to reassign to a new word.
When it comes to complex rules, I opt for b).  At that, I'd go for 
context [] where there are a lot of associated words...
Henrik
12-May-2008
[2524]
the function is recursive, so that may put a twist on b). I forgot 
that detail with BIND on a) so thanks for that. c) seems to work 
best.
amacleod
15-May-2008
[2525x4]
I'm just not getting the hang of parsing. I've read tutorials an 
looked at scripts but when I try to adapt it to my work it fails.
I'm trying to parse a tex document that I've formated into lines 
of text with blank lines between simialr to make doc format
Most lines begin with a section number (2.), or a sub-section (2.3) 
or a sub-sub-section (2.3.5).
I've got rules to find each: (some digit "." some space) etc. and 
it works. I've been able to copy the text following with (copy text 
thru end) but how do I copy the section number?
Oldes
15-May-2008
[2529x2]
ch_section: charset "0123456789."

parse/all "2.1.3 line" [copy section some ch_section copy rest to 
end] probe reduce [section rest] ;== ["2.1.3" " line"]
or something like that:
ch_digits: charset "0123456789"

r_section: [pos1: some [some ch_digits opt #"."] pos2: (section: 
copy/part pos1 pos2)]

parse/all "2.3.4 line" [r_section copy rest to end] probe reduce 
[section rest] ;== ["2.3.4" " line"]
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2531x3]
If the section numbers always end with a period, you can do this:
    some [some digits "."]
If the section numbers don't end with period you can do this:
    some digits any ["." some digits]
Look up recursive descent parsing, and take a not of the difference 
between left recursion and right recursion.
not -> note
Chris
16-May-2008
[2534]
Don't want to add too much, but with parse you can really build up 
a vocubulary based on the patterns you know:


 section: [integer! ["." | 1 4 ["." integer!]]] ; -- or whatever rule 
 covers all permutations
	chars-sp: charset " " space: [some chars-sp]

	parse/all [copy sn section space [to newline | to end]]


Vocabularies are easy to wrap in their own context too.  Note also 
that [integer!] is a shorthand for [some digit] -- very useful : 
)
amacleod
16-May-2008
[2535x4]
Oldes, thanks for your suggestion. It works when I do a simple one 
line rule as you suggested but when I try to use multiple rules it 
fails.

Example of what I'm trying to do:
Example of the text document:
3. CONSTRUCTION OF PORTABLE ALUMINUM LADDERS


3.1 Aluminum ladders are divided into two basic types of construction, 
viz:, solid beam and truss.


3.1.1  Solid Beam Aluminum Construction- This type of ladder has 
a solid side rail construction with aluminum rungs connecting with 
the side rails at fourteen inch intervals. The connection is generally 
either by a welded joint between rung and side rails, or by an expansion 
plug pinching the rung tightly to the side rails and internal backup 
plates. (Figure 2 A)


3.1.2  Aluminum Truss Construction- In the aluminum truss design, 
the top and bottom rails are connected to rung assemblies or rung 
blocks by rivets. The rungs are either welded or expansion plugged 
to the rung plate assemblies, which are supported by the top and 
bottom rails. (Figure 2B)
	

3.2 The base of the portable aluminum ladder is provided with either 
steel spikes or swiveling rubber safety shoes and aluminum spikes. 
For ladders equipped with the swiveling device, the rubber pads should 
be utilized when the ladder is to be raised and used on hard surfaces. 
(Figure 2A, 2B)
 3. CONSTRUCTION OF PORTABLE ALUMINUM LADDERS
space: charset " ^-"
spaces: [some space]
chars: complement charset " ^-^/"
digit: charset "0123456789"
digits: [some digit]
section: [digits "." some space]
sub-sec: [digits "." digits spaces]
sub-sub-sec: [digits "." digits "." digits spaces]


rules: [heading some parts done] (where heading is the first line 
of the text file]

parts: [newline | section format_section | sub-section | sub-sub-section]


format_section:   copy sec section copy rest to newline (print reduce 
[sec rest])
If I use format_section code directly with parse it works but  i 
get nothing when I redirect it to another line.


THe above code is similar to what Carl used in his text to html script.
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2539]
Any reason that the headings with one number have a trailing period 
and the rest don't?
amacleod
16-May-2008
[2540]
BrianH, sorry BRian the text above is just from a random and simpler 
section of the document.

if I copied the from the begining the first line would not have a 
number at all.
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2541]
Actually, the inconsistency affects the parse rules. I ask again...
amacleod
16-May-2008
[2542]
I thought you ment the document heading...

No reason but my rules account for it. The rules work in simpler 
tests..
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2543]
Are you creating the documents or are others doing so? For that matter, 
does it just go to 3 levels of numbers?
amacleod
16-May-2008
[2544]
THE docs come from pdf's that I have converted to text and tried 
to reformat by hand to hte similest form whilepreserving the structure 
of the doc. In addition to sections, sub-sections and sub-sub-seections 
there are nubered lists, letter lists, photos/diagrams, and tables 
to deal with. I thought I start with sorting out the sections and 
tackle the rest later.
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2545]
Well, first of all you need to put the longer matches first in your 
alternates, so they will be tested first.
amacleod
16-May-2008
[2546x2]
in the above code the following will work:
format_section:   [copy rest to newline (print reduce [rest ])

but this fails: 

format_section:   [copy sec section copy rest to newline (print reduce 
[sec rest])
longer matches...

This is where I get lost in parse.

What do you mean?
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2548]
It checks the alternates (sections separated by | ) in order. If 
there is ambiguity, the way to get it to go for the longest match 
is to check for that match first.
amacleod
16-May-2008
[2549]
so check sub-sub-sections then sub-section then sections in that 
order?
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2550]
Yes, or combine them (which I will demonstrate).
amacleod
16-May-2008
[2551]
How does parse evaluate the rule and document?


does it check each rule through the whle doc or line first then goes 
back and checks with hte next alternate? and so on?
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2552x4]
section: [some digits (level: 1) ["." some digits (level: level + 
1) | "."]]
Note that I did the longer alternate first.
But I made a mistake.
section: [some digits (level: 1) [some ["." some digits (level: level 
+ 1)] | "."]]
amacleod
16-May-2008
[2556x2]
This will give me a hit on any section or sub or sub sub?


I may want to do something different depending on each. does this 
allow me to ?
sorry that is the level:?
BrianH
16-May-2008
[2558]
Yup.