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[Parse] Discussion of PARSE dialect
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Graham 4-Nov-2005 [740x3] | Yes, I think so. |
I presume ST stands for sub test. | |
The HL7 org want to move to using XML instead ... | |
BrianH 4-Nov-2005 [743] | Do you want to do a full rule-based parse here, or will simple parse do? data: read/lines %data foreach rec data [ rec: parse/all rec "|" switch rec/1 [ "OBX" [ ... do stuff... |
sqlab 4-Nov-2005 [744] | OBX is the segment type segments are separated by #"^M" an OBX segment can have up to 24 fields according version 2.4, empty fields at the end of an segment need not to be transferred, fields are delimited by #"|" normally, but all delimiters except segment delimiter can be defined for each message. fields can be divided by #"^^" into components, components can be divided into subcomponents etc. |
Graham 4-Nov-2005 [745x5] | I'm working on a full rule based parse. |
sqlab, you've been doing this stuff for years. | |
Ok, my parser is able to get all the data out of all the records now in the test result above. | |
pipe: charset "|" nonpipe: complement charset "|" caret: charset "^^" non-caret: complement caret digits: charset [ #"0" - #"9" ] labsupplier: hl7level: datetime: patient: labno: labno2: none nte-rule: [ "NTE" pipe digits pipe 1 skip pipe copy notes to newline (append txt notes) ] oru-rule: [ "ORU" pipe copy labno some digits pipe ] datetime-rule: [ copy datetime some digits ] msh-rule: [ "MSH" pipe some nonpipe pipe copy labsupplier some nonpipe pipe some nonpipe pipe copy hl7level some nonpipe 2 skip datetime-rule 2 skip oru-rule thru newline ] msa-rule: [ "MSA" pipe 3 skip copy labno2 some digits thru newline ] pid-rule: [ "PID" 2 skip some nonpipe pipe some digits pipe some nonpipe pipe copy patient some nonpipe 2 pipe copy dob some digits pipe copy gender [ #"F" | #"M" ] thru newline ] obr-rule: [ "OBR" pipe 1 digits pipe copy drcode some nonpipe pipe some nonpipe pipe copy panelcode some nonpipe pipe 1 skip pipe copy bleeddate some digits pipe copy reportdate some digits pipe 2 skip pipe 2 skip 5 pipe copy bleeddate some digits 2 pipe copy requestdr some nonpipe 3 pipe copy nzcouncilcode some nonpipe thru newline ] txt: copy "" cnt: 1 obx-rule: [ "OBX" pipe copy cntr some digits ( if cnt <> to-integer cntr [ print "halted as out of sequence" halt] cnt: cnt + 1 ) pipe [ st-rule | ft-rule ] ] ft-rule: [ "FT" pipe some non-caret any caret copy comm some non-caret any caret 3 skip copy comments some nonpipe (repend txt [ comm " " comments newline ]) thru newline ] st-rule: [ "ST" pipe some non-caret any caret copy testtype some non-caret any caret 3 skip copy testresult some nonpipe pipe [ pipe | copy units some nonpipe pipe ] copy range some nonpipe thru newline ( repend txt [ testtype " " testresult " " units " " range newline ] ) ] record-rule: [ ( cnt: 1 txt: copy "" ) msh-rule msa-rule pid-rule obr-rule obx-rule [ some obx-rule ] nte-rule ] parse read %hl7data.txt record-rule print [ labsupplier hl7level datetime patient labno labno2 dob gender panelcode bleeddate reportdate requestdr nzcouncilcode newline txt ] | |
That's my rough working parser. | |
sqlab 4-Nov-2005 [750] | I have seen just too many exceptions in real messages from the rules. So I just parse the message into an internal structure like mssg: [MSH [ field1 field2 ..] PID [field1 field2 .. ..] OBR [.. ..] .. ] etc Then I can access the data either with mssg/OBX/3 for example or use set . I use checking as a optional second step. |
Graham 4-Nov-2005 [751x4] | I used to parse HL7 messages differently ... splitting them into fields as well. But this time I thought I 'd try a rule based approach. |
I admit it is likely to be easier to do it your way. | |
I then I have to map the results so that different laboratory's fields can be made equivalent. | |
And the data can then be codified. | |
sqlab 4-Nov-2005 [755] | What do you mean with different laboratory's fields can be made equivalent. and the data can be codified? |
Graham 4-Nov-2005 [756] | Rather than storing the HL7 result as free text, to store each sub test in a database. So, a Hb result will be stored as a Hb record. Another laboratory might call that "haemoglobin", so I need to map these two together. |
sqlab 4-Nov-2005 [757] | Do you want to do your mapping in the database or with Rebol? |
Graham 4-Nov-2005 [758x2] | in the database ... Here's my new parser using your approach. |
hl7msg: make object! [ msh: [] msa: [] pid: [] obr: [] obx: [] nte: [] ] datafile: %hl7data.txt parse-hl7msg: func [datafile [string!] /local segment segbl v ] [ hl7: make hl7msg [] trim/head/tail datafile append datafile {^/} line-rule: [copy segment to "^/" 1 skip ( segbl: parse/all segment "|" either segbl/1 = "OBX" [ insert/only tail hl7/obx skip segbl 1 ] [ v: to-word segbl/1 insert hl7/:v skip segbl 1 ] ) ] parse/all datafile [ some line-rule ] hl7 ] test: parse-hl7msg read datafile | |
BrianH 4-Nov-2005 [760] | Again, if you are just matching a single character or a fixed string, it is better and faster to just match it instead of matching a charset of that character. You don't need the caret, non-caret, pipe and nonpipe charsets you have above - the strings "^^" and "|" will do just as well. |
Anton 5-Nov-2005 [761x7] | Graham, I agree with BrianH. It should speed up your parse, and make it easier to read because you can use TO and THRU again. caret: #"^^" etc |
(and using a character instead of a string will save a tiny bit of memory too, I think) | |
I have a strange issue of my own: | |
var: 123 parse/all "a" [copy var "b" | (?? var)] ; ---> var: none var: 123 parse/all "a" [[copy var "b"] | (?? var)] ; ---> var: 123 var: 123 rule: [copy var "b"] parse/all "a" [rule | (?? var)] ; ---> var: 123 | |
I want to know what happens when COPY fails to match the input. In the first case, it modifies VAR, changing it from 123 to NONE. In the second case, it leaves VAR alone. | |
Oh! I think I know what's happening ! | |
Yep, understand it now. It's like this: var: 1 parse "" [copy var "a" |] ;== true var ;== none | |
BrianH 5-Nov-2005 [768] | Anton, I used to use a character rather than a string too, because of the memory issue. But it turned out to be slower that way. I think parse only matches on strings, and single characters have to be converted to one-character strings before they can be passed to the matcher. At least that would explain the speed discrepancy. |
Romano 5-Nov-2005 [769x2] | Anton, for me it is a wrong behaviour of parse. |
I also have some doubts about the corretness of this: var: 123 probe parse/all "" [copy var ""] var; false == 123 | |
sqlab 7-Nov-2005 [771] | Graham: two points of trouble 1; you loose the order of the segments with your approach, eg NTE can be at different positions in the message, set-id is not always used in the same way. 2; are you sure that the values of different laboratories can be compared? are they using the same test kits, do they do ring tests ? |
JaimeVargas 7-Nov-2005 [772] | I would agree with romano. Anton please reported this inconsistent behaviour to RAMBO. |
Graham 7-Nov-2005 [773x2] | sqlab, doesn't my last parse account for the possibility of NET segment being anywhere in the message ? |
currently I only have data from one laboratory - I'll have to contact some others to get theirs to see what their messages are like. | |
sqlab 8-Nov-2005 [775] | Yes, you get the NTEs, but you do not retain the information, which OBR, which OBX they comment or if the follow even the PID. That's why I use just one block for all segments retaining the order. |
Graham 8-Nov-2005 [776x2] | Perhaps I can get around that by instantiating a new hl7object with each MSH segment... |
Or not ... | |
Anton 15-Nov-2005 [778x3] | Brian, yes! You remind me of that finding, long ago... I now remember thinking how it was good because of less syntax. |
Romano, I don't think it is an error anymore. Note my examples contain the pipe |, which allows the rule to succeed on none input. eg, these rules are equivalent: [copy var "a" | none] [copy var "a" | ] | |
Your example, however, looks like an edge case... Probably parse checks for the end of the input before trying to match a string. | |
Geomol 1-Dec-2005 [781x2] | The 'to position' thing, we talk about in the RAMBO group also works with blocks: >> parse ["string" 123 [me-:-server-:-dagobah]] [to 2 mk: (print mk)] 123 [me-:-server-:-dagobah] == false TO also works with datatypes, as explained in the Core documentation: >> parse ["string" 123 [me-:-server-:-dagobah]] [to email! mk: (print mk)] [me-:-server-:-dagobah] == false |
(Right brackets are left out just after the email address by Altme.) | |
Henrik 1-Dec-2005 [783] | geomol, out of curiosity, have you tried those incidents where parse will lock up and you need to quit REBOL? Have you tried to keep it running for a few minutes and see what happens? |
Geomol 1-Dec-2005 [784] | nope |
Henrik 1-Dec-2005 [785] | just wondering if that is a known behaviour. it returns to the console on its own |
Geomol 1-Dec-2005 [786] | Strange and funny. Like it has it's own personality. ;-) |
Henrik 1-Dec-2005 [787x2] | after about 5-7 minutes or so... |
it's in one of the examples in the wikibook group | |
Geomol 1-Dec-2005 [789] | It an almost infinite loop then. Takes all the cpu. |
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