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forth-compiler.

Doesn't look like they released the original assembler or c source

That's what I mean. 68000 Output is no good on Syllable

But the usual ones are simple. DOn't know if they do tricky optimizing.

If you want this, you should look at the portable Forth that one 
of the authors did

No, but you can replace it with a x86-compiler. bigforth has one.

Anyway, it's full of forth source so that could be useful if someone 
else ports another forth over.

but then bigforth has everything else too, and a swapdragon.

So, Volker is volunterring to port BigForth ?

Replacing it with an X86 compiler would mean rewriting it. And then 
you have a new compiler that can't be ported when we port Syllable 
to some other architecture

This is one of the things where Syllable is generally much more modern 
than AmigaOS. It's all portable C and C++. There are just a few very 
small fragments of assembler code in Syllable

forth-compilers are not that complex, mostly "look word up, copy 
some bytes". Except of the professional ones which do register-optimizing 
and tricks.

I ported FigForth to the c/Plus4 but I had the fig assembler source.

the forth interpreter is tiny ...

fig yes. and every compiler-bit can be reused in the application 
as a menu-system :)

well, Phil Burk did release his portable forth with source ... so 
that's the way to go I guess.
http://www.softsynth.com/pforth/

Been ported to BeOS.

Yup, that's a good indicator for Syllable

for those that need a LHA decompressor ... http://www.nonags.com/nonags/ziputil.html

pfe has a tcp/ip-lib. pforth too?

pfe is commercial.

http://pfe.sourceforge.net/lgpl.

Taygeta has a native forth tcp/ip stack.

syllable: will this work?

http://www.other-space.com/sub/?section=Installing_Syllable&tutorial=Installing_From_Boot_Floppies

But not public?

The boot floppies are old. They may not contain the unzip executable 
that you need to unpack the Syllable base package. You may be able 
to extract unzip from the base package and add it to the floppies, 
or put it on a FAT partition and mount that from the floppies

(taygeta tcp i mean)

Can i install an old syllable and upgrade that?

I like to walk thru walls..

You could, but it would be messy, especially the last upgrade to 
0.5.7. And you may not find out that newer Syllables don't run on 
your machine until you upgrade

The live CD is really the easiest way to get going

Taygeta's is based upon BSD socket interface, but they recommend 
that if the host already provides a stack, it is only necessary to 
write the inteface.

Did you find the base zip and the floppies yet?

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=55553&package_id=50546

Volker is looking for 360k floppies...

Oh, right...

I have stacks of 130K floppies for him...

Including a machine to use them? :)

I suspect he is waiting for Blue Ray to be released.

Stacks of Atari 8-bits, yes

then forth would make really sense.

Lets make a computer-museum.

I have one upstairs

It's boxy, but good :-)

:))

Do you know how booting works? if i extract the cd to hd and fidle 
with lilo, can i then boot something?

Follow the install instructions. You have to install Syllable's version 
of GrUB

If you want to boot with something else, like LiLo, you have to install 
GrUB in the Syllable partition instead of the Master Boot Record, 
and chainload to there from LiLo

how does the reboot time for syllable compare with other os's?  Does 
it make it viable to run as a server?