World: r3wp
[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Kaj 22-Oct-2007 [1303] | We've gone through a series of hosters, and it's a pain. We're consolidating on S3 now |
Graham 22-Oct-2007 [1304] | I just checked my vmware appliance that does my torrents and I see the Syllable server now has 5 seeds, and my share ratio went up from 0 to .5 now! |
Kaj 23-Oct-2007 [1305] | Do you have the BitTorrent ports on your firewall forwarded to that appliance? If not, you'll get a much smaller share of downloaders |
Sunanda 23-Oct-2007 [1306] | If download violume is a problem for Syllable, could you find some people to mirror? |
Kaj 23-Oct-2007 [1307x4] | Nah, it's too much hassle, and we want the download statistics |
Mirroring is automatic when people use BitTorrent, and we still get the statistics | |
Once the downloads go through the roof, we'll probably put up Google ads to balance the costs | |
That would work out, because our system downloads are still much smaller than the average Linux system | |
Graham 23-Oct-2007 [1311] | where do you get your stats from ? Directly from S3? |
Kaj 23-Oct-2007 [1312] | Yes. Have to write some analysis scripts - hopefully in ORCA |
Robert 23-Oct-2007 [1313x3] | Is WLan stuff supported? |
I think you could position Syllable with two major values: 1. Do you want to surf secure? Use Syllable, no virus etc will work 2. Do you want to avoid observation? Use Syllable, no root-kit etc. will work. | |
As goverments are moving to 1984 style, these two aspects will become more and more important. | |
Kaj 23-Oct-2007 [1316x3] | Server now uses the Linux 2.6.22.1 kernel, so it has the new DeviceScape wireless stack |
I haven't integrated the userspace tools yet, though; that's planned for the second release. I don't know yet how easy it will be then to configure wireless, without graphical tools | |
We definitely want to be something like "the Apple of open source". And unlike Apple, freedom is very important, too ;-) | |
Kaj 13-Nov-2007 [1319x2] | The second Syllable newsletter has interviews with me about Syllable Server and our new website, so you can read a bit about our platform strategy and how we use REBOL in it: |
http://osnews.com/story.php/18911/Syllable-Newsletter-Issue-2-Published | |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [1321] | Here's the Syllable group. |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [1322x3] | thanks |
have you got the ap from carl so you wil be ready to port R3 when its ready. | |
ap=api | |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [1325x3] | I'm just now getting into closer contact |
Do you mean the specs? They're not much use right now. We need code, as simple as that | |
I doubt there are any porting specs, because little work has been done on it yet | |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [1328] | The porting API of R3 isn't quite settled yet, and the library would have to be compiled for Syllable. Not a big problem. |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [1329] | There is a chance that we could even use the Linux library to begin with. Syllable is that compatible |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [1330x2] | As I understand it the library is a sort of a "VM" and you need to write an interpeter for the platform. |
And I thought I read that it was ported to mac os X so the specs for the interpreter must be there | |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [1332x2] | Hm |
Whatever it is, we should be able to use most of the Linux code when it's there | |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [1334x2] | Nope. The library is a shared library like a .so or .dll, and later statically linked like a .o or .lib. |
It is not a VM. | |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [1336] | I'm using the wrong terms I guess...but this method of inking it must be known by now? |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [1337] | The method, yes. The api and specs, still in process. |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [1338] | gottcha! |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [1339x2] | They're the two standard methods of providing libraries. Principally, they should be Syllable libraries, but we're so much using the same toolchain that we can sometimes use Linux libraries directly |
I'll just have to try it | |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [1341] | Back to syllable...what niche are you looking to fill that is not served by ms or linux or mac stc. |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [1342] | A native Syllable library would be better public relations :) |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [1343x3] | Of course |
Ehm, the world domination niche? ;-) | |
It will take us another decade to get there, but we are serious about producing a system with a significant potential | |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [1346] | We'll have to get Carl to add "world domination" to the plans. |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [1347x2] | Hm, I won't make any definitive statements about that |
Linux is mostly failing on the desktop. Syllable Desktop is a system based on many of the same open-source components to correct that | |
BrianH 13-Dec-2007 [1349] | What, do you want me to give a definite world domination release date? :) |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [1350] | No, but suppose we reach world domination together, we would then have to bicker about who was the essential component :-) |
amacleod 13-Dec-2007 [1351] | I use linux but I'm always hitting a wall and going back to windows for some tasks. Plus it seems too big and bloated. |
Kaj 13-Dec-2007 [1352] | If you have experienced Amiga, you know why Linux is failing, and you should have some idea why Syllable has a much better chance |
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