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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Kaj 10-Jun-2008 [1490x5] | The new features are not complete yet, but the base functionality works better than the current 0.2 release |
The new REBOL 2 Core is included, so the bug in CALL on Linux is fixed | |
Cheyenne and QuarterMaster are included, but their configuration is not complete yet. Should be easy to finish for someone already familiar with them, though | |
This version of Cheyenne still has a small bug with the new REBOL 2, though. See the Cheyenne group here | |
REBOL/Services is included, although the public version is a bit behind on RT's development version | |
btiffin 10-Jun-2008 [1495] | Way to go Kaj; Cool news. Go Syllable Go. Umm, if you are headed down this route; checkout TRETBASE too. Mmm; it's a REBOL tasty DB. |
Kaj 10-Jun-2008 [1496x2] | Thanks. Been looking into a bit, but I don't see where I could use it yet |
So it would probably end up as a separate installation package for Syllable eventually | |
Kaj 6-Aug-2008 [1498] | I'm working on the configurations for the new servers, and I got Cheyenne running on Syllable Server a while ago |
Graham 6-Aug-2008 [1499] | What about the new netbooks? I've just got an Acer Aspire One ... comes with Linpus ... http://blog.linuxoss.com/2008/06/acer-aspire-one-mini-notebook-with-linpus-linux-lite/ |
Kaj 7-Aug-2008 [1500x4] | They're very interesting for Syllable |
As you can see on our site, we managed to install Syllable on an Asus Eee PC a while ago and are improving our support for that | |
It's only details that need to be improved for the new netbooks. For the rest the issues are the same: Syllable is simply not finished yet | |
On the other hand, the incentive to run Syllable is much greater for the netbooks, because the difference with other systems is much more noticable there. Although they're full PCs, they're basically still a new form factor, and they bode well for our future | |
Graham 7-Aug-2008 [1504] | Is there an ETA to roll the 1.0 release of Syllable? |
Kaj 8-Aug-2008 [1505x2] | No :-) |
But it's obviously sooner for Server than for Desktop | |
Graham 8-Aug-2008 [1507] | This is your window of opportunity! :) |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1508x5] | So I just released Syllable Server 0.3 |
Here's our blurb: | |
The third release of Syllable Server has been published. This is an important release, because it is the first one that focused on making the system actually usable as a server. A number of popular servers were added and configured, and also several innovative REBOL software stacks. Out of the imaginary box, Syllable Server is now ready for such things as accepting remote SSH log-ins over the network, running a web server on the Cheyenne REBOL server, running an FTP server and several more. Special attention has been paid to programmability, with support for developing Model-View-Controller web applications in QuarterMaster and networking applications with the REBOL/Services Service Oriented Architecture. The Genode Nitpicker windowing system is also included. Read the rest in the full changelog. An extensive manual was also written, which is easy to follow. As usual, both a BitTorrent download (preferred) and a regular download are available (80 MB 7-Zip archive). Please use the torrent if you can. | |
This represents nine months of work, so a lot happened. I'll post the change log here: | |
This release focuses on making the system usable for running a number of standard servers, and several innovative REBOL servers. The development files of the system, program headers, static libraries and development documentation, were moved to a separate area in /system/development/ and are now shipped in a separate package. If you want to compile software on Syllable Server, you need to install and register this package. The development files need to match the system: you can't use a package of any other Syllable version. (You will also need to install the Developer's Delight package collection and possibly other packages.) User directories were moved from /home/ to /users/. Resource packages are in the process of moving from /usr/ to /resources/. /resources/ is currently a symbolic link to /usr/ so that resource packages will work from both places during the migration. Many fixes were made, including more fixes for the CUPS print server and GhostScript. Creation of extra user accounts is possible now. Many packages were updated, including the Linux kernel, IPTables, the GCC libraries, OpenSSH, SDL and QEmu. DirectFB was not upgraded due to incompatibility with Links2. CDRTools were included for burning CDs, and the NetCat networking tool and the Transmission BitTorrent client were added. In addition to the Syllable-specific early initialisation scripts (in the early-init subdirectory of packages), the late initialisation scripts (in the init subdirectory of packages) are now also executed. Several more initialisation scripts from Linux From Scratch were also added. Some servers can be started with the LFS scripts, others with the Syllable scripts (this will be unified in later releases). The OpenSSH server was configured and now runs by default. At the first system start, security keys are generated that identify the server. A collection of well-known root certificates from Certification Authorities was added to allow OpenSSL-based programs (such as OpenSSH) to establish the identity of destination points for network connections. A MIME-types database was added in /etc/mime.types that is used by many programs, such as web servers, to identify the MIME types of files based on their file name extensions. Several REBOL software stacks were added: - The REBOL/Services Service Oriented Architecture. - The UniServe network server framework. - The Cheyenne Apache-class web server. - A CAPTCHA library. - A MySQL network protocol. - The QuarterMaster web programming framework, based on a Model-View-Controller architecture. By default, it's configured to run on Cheyenne. - The TINY library for parsing text, abstracting data access and building templates of generic text formats (including HTML). This library is an original creation and targets both ORCA and REBOL. Configurations, including initialisation scripts, were added for the OpenSSH remote access server, the CUPS print server, the BIND domain name server, the Apache web server, the RSync file synchronisation server, the SaMBa Windows-compatible file server, the INetUtils FTP server and the VSFTP FTP server. Several of these are not included in the system, but need to be installed separately (the system is prepared for them). The sshd, cupsd and initd servers are started by default. S3Cmd/S3Sync was included, a tool for accessing the Amazon Simple Storage Service (S3) and synchronising files with it. As a demo, the Genode operating system framework, its Nitpicker windowing server (built on SDL) and its demonstration programs were included. | |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [1513x2] | Lot of work .... |
You don't believe in release frequently?? | |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1515] | We do, but we don't always manage |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [1516] | got an imap server included? |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1517x4] | 0.1 was the first working version, 0.2 was a restructuring an bug fixing. I decided it was no use making another release until it was usable for practical purposes. This is what it took |
There were development releases, though | |
Further, a lot of nonsense happened and I had to spend a lot of time on other things, such as creating alternatives for disappearing websites | |
On the other hand, I'm well underway with my REBOL CMS now :-) | |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [1521] | is Cheyenne running on startup? |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1522x2] | No, but it takes changing one character |
No IMAP server, but it would be straightforward to compile one, such as Cyrus | |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [1524] | dovecot |
shadwolf 12-Sep-2008 [1525] | nice work kaj keep going on |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1526] | Thanks |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [1527x2] | then one could run the Rebol IMAP bbs straight out of the box |
That's used by Rebol France for their discussions | |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1529x2] | Yeah, one of the next things is building middleware stacks |
You get good pure REBOL ones included, though :-) | |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [1531] | I'm running a vm of fedora just to run this bbs script! |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1532] | Ah. A Syllable Server VM would be much more lightweight. That's one of the things I designed it for |
shadwolf 12-Sep-2008 [1533x2] | your internet server in 256K ^^ |
lol | |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1535] | Well, not really; it's still Linux |
shadwolf 12-Sep-2008 [1536x2] | you don't have money you don't have an internet serveur you have a digital watch -> lets go !!! |
your internet server on your digital watch yeaaaaaaah | |
Graham 12-Sep-2008 [1538] | http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgiis the script |
Kaj 12-Sep-2008 [1539] | The documentation points to a disappeared site |
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