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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family

Graham
14-Sep-2008
[1553x2]
Kaj, there never was any documentation except the source code which 
is linked at the bottom.  and all you need is Rebol and an imap server.
the missing link you refer to is the rebol documentaion project .. 
and yes, that has disappeared.
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1555x3]
Oh, OK
But is Dovecot all it needs?
Or can it use any IMAP server?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1558x2]
Any imap server
I just thought dovecot was the easiest to setup.
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1560]
So would you be interested in replacing your Fedora VM?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1561]
absolutely
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1562]
How big is it?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1563x2]
let me check
gee .. I've got about 3Gbs of various virtual disks
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1565x2]
Server's footprint is 370 MB. I'm also going to produce a trimmed 
version, but that will take a while longer
How big an image do you need?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1567x2]
anything smaller than what I have is good, and a virtual disk that 
can grow
to accomodate the messages
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1569]
I have to create it at a certain size. The one I have now is 10 GB, 
I believe. Is that enough?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1570x2]
yes!
does it have vmware tools installed?
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1572]
No. Do you need it?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1573x2]
yes, otherwise the time etc won't keep
well, may not keep
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1575]
That's running in the guest OS, isn't it? That's not available for 
Server yet
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1576]
vmware tools run on the vm
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1577]
I'm not sure it's really necessary. Can't VMware keep the time? It 
has complete control over the guest
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1578x2]
to make sure the mouse, and clock work and the video too I think 
.. though that's not so necessary in a non-gui environment
that's the problem I had initially with the first vm I used ... no 
vmware tools installed and so the clock was never right.
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1580]
There's no mouse :-)
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1581]
true :)
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1582x2]
At least, not in the normal environment. DirectFB and SDL are included, 
but it's basically a console system
I suppose you have the VMware tools? Can you install them on a console 
VM?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1584]
yes .. it's all console installation ( compile .. but of course it's 
a perl script! )
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1585x2]
Ugh. No Perl on a standard Syllable Server, so you'd have to install 
that, too
Does it compile stuff?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1587x2]
I presume so
I can see how it works without vmware tools ...
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1589x4]
If so, you'd have to install the developer packs, too, and the size 
of the thing increases
I'm out of time for working on Syllable, but I'll squeeze some things 
in here and there
I still have to make an emulator image for Server 0.3, so I'll see 
if I can port Dovecot before that
Are you using that VM for anything else but RebelBB?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1593]
no...
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1594]
OK. It may actually be easier for me to produce a highly optimised 
RebelBB appliance :-)
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1595]
What's the difference?
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1596x2]
Size
If I just add RebelBB and Dovecot to the stripped version I was going 
to work on anyway
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1598]
ok
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1599]
I hear that Syllable Desktop can run for a week on VMware without 
loosing time, so I don't know what the problem with Fedora is
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1600]
http://www.djax.co.uk/kb/linux/vmware_clock_drift.html
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1601x2]
Another fine mess
We'll have to see how serious the problem is, and if we can correct 
it by using NTP on the Syllable guest