World: r3wp

What's the difference?

Size

If I just add RebelBB and Dovecot to the stripped version I was going 
to work on anyway

ok

I hear that Syllable Desktop can run for a week on VMware without 
loosing time, so I don't know what the problem with Fedora is

http://www.djax.co.uk/kb/linux/vmware_clock_drift.html

Another fine mess

We'll have to see how serious the problem is, and if we can correct 
it by using NTP on the Syllable guest

my experience is that minutes are lost over one hour

Nasty

We could run an R/S tunnel that sets the guest clock every minute 
from the host clock :-)

I was doing that

Oh, cool. Didn't it work?

Yes, but it was just too many dependencies

But you still have the code?

Were you running a desktop on the guest machine?

no

Hm. A Syllable colleague says loosing time is basically through a 
heavily loaded machine

It should be much less of an issue on an optimised appliance

hardly heavily loaded .. just rebol and dovecot

Odd. We'll see how it turns out

It's a software clock once running, so these things are usually due 
to badly behaved programs disabling interrupts for short whiles

So the less you have on your system, the less that can disturb it

How much is running on the host system?

A few vms

That could also be it

Do you have time problems on all VMs?

no

Just the linux ones which don't have vmware tools installed

Looks like I'm only currerntly just running Windows 2003 server

Only W2003 in another VM?

yes

A lot on it?

just a few rebol servers

using windows 2003 as I need odbc

Odd

#!/sbin/rebol  -qw
Rebol [
 file: %update.r

 purpose: {Update the system clock based upon the nist.gov time server}
 author: {Graham Chiu}
 date: 15-Apr-2007
]

get-nist-correction: func [/local nist-time cpu-time mjd hms] [
 nist-time: read daytime://time-a.nist.gov
 cpu-time: now

 parse/all nist-time [skip copy mjd 5 skip 2 thru " " copy hms 8 skip]
 nist-time: 17/Nov/1858 + to integer! mjd
 nist-time/time: to time! hms
 nist-correction: difference nist-time cpu-time
]

forever [
 if error? set/any 'err try [
 print [ "Current time was: " now ]
 current-time: now + get-nist-correction
 print [ "New time is: " current-time ]

 s: rejoin [ "date -s " {"} current-time/month "/" current-time/day 
 "/" current-time/year " " current-time/time {"} ]
 probe s
 call s 
 ][ probe mold disarm err ]
 wait 00:02:00 ;; wait 2 mins
]

Interesting case, though. Virtualisation is one of the areas I want 
to focus on with Syllable Server

Looks like Ladislav and I wrote this.

the other way is just setup a time server on the host os and use 
the daylight protocol

daytime

How big is your RebelBB message database at the momen?

not very big.  It's just a mail folder

wouldn

wouldn't be more than 100 messages

I use it as a knowledgebase

Oh :-)

That's very lightweight

Could replace the whole RebelBB/Dovecot thing with a REBOL script 
in an evening :-)

It's supposed to be scaleable :)