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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Graham 15-Sep-2008 [1666] | I did try using yahoo mail as the imap server but there was too much latency |
Kaj 15-Sep-2008 [1667] | Have you worked with REBOL/Services? |
Graham 15-Sep-2008 [1668x2] | No |
Just the Beer implementation | |
Kaj 15-Sep-2008 [1670] | Does your REBOL client just download a file? |
Graham 15-Sep-2008 [1671] | it does an async read of the messages |
Kaj 15-Sep-2008 [1672] | Oh, IMAP of course |
Kaj 16-Sep-2008 [1673x2] | Did the first build run of a stripped Syllable Server last night. Worked right away. Stripping out things such as printing and scanning reduced the footprint from 370 MB to under 250 |
That's with all the REBOL goodies still in :-) | |
Henrik 16-Sep-2008 [1675] | How much do the REBOL goodies take up? |
Graham 16-Sep-2008 [1676] | what is scanning doing in a server build? |
Kaj 16-Sep-2008 [1677x9] | I'm sure someone could think up a scanning server. :-) Document archiving or in an embedded device or so |
In any case, the regular Syllable Server is meant to be full-featured | |
The REBOL goodies are tiny, of course | |
REBOL/Core is 700 KB and that includes rebbase and a bit of documentation | |
Cheyenne and QuarterMaster combined are 520 KB | |
The rest is just tens of kilobytes | |
So there are not likely to be any Server versions with the REBOL stuff left out :-) | |
In contrast, Ruby, which is only there for an Amazon S3 script, and which is one of the smallest popular languages, takes 11 MB | |
Oh, ORCA takes about 450 KB, including the library and the documentation | |
Graham 16-Sep-2008 [1686] | so, do you have a ruby script that backs up the server data to S3? |
Kaj 17-Sep-2008 [1687x3] | Yeah, it's the standard S3Sync tool that's included. Read the Server manual for an example of backing up a directory |
By the way, I got us on DistroWatch, the main index of Linux distributions: | |
http://distrowatch.com/syllable | |
Graham 17-Sep-2008 [1690] | That's great. |
Kaj 17-Sep-2008 [1691] | Yeah, should get us some attention |
Robert 17-Sep-2008 [1692] | Is ORCA still in development? |
Kaj 17-Sep-2008 [1693] | Yes. It's certainly not finished :-) |
Robert 17-Sep-2008 [1694x2] | Should have read: still being developed. |
So how close are you for a full Rebol clone? | |
Kaj 17-Sep-2008 [1696x3] | I know. :-) |
Karl sporadically makes bug fixes. I will start doing that, too, and enhancements, when I get to it | |
I don't think it's ever going to be a full clone, because REBOL keeps developing | |
Graham 18-Sep-2008 [1699] | A server appliance ready yet? |
Kaj 18-Sep-2008 [1700x2] | No, I'm out visiting several conferences to promote Syllable Server. Giving a talk on Saturday |
Porting and configuring Dovecot and RebelBB will take some time, anyway | |
Graham 18-Sep-2008 [1702] | Had ,many downloads? |
Kaj 18-Sep-2008 [1703x2] | Around 500 at a rough estimate so far |
Much less than for Desktop, but not too shabby for a console server without an installer | |
Graham 18-Sep-2008 [1705x2] | no installer will put people off! |
well, until the vm is released :) | |
Kaj 18-Sep-2008 [1707] | I know. I didn't take it out, though |
Graham 18-Sep-2008 [1708] | didn't take out what? |
Kaj 18-Sep-2008 [1709] | The installer. It just doesn't exist :-) |
Graham 18-Sep-2008 [1710] | will you write an orca installer? Or rebol one? |
Kaj 18-Sep-2008 [1711] | A new ORCA one, combined with Syllable Desktop |
Graham 18-Sep-2008 [1712] | so, no gui then? |
Kaj 18-Sep-2008 [1713] | Syllable GUI on Desktop, maybe a remote REBOL GUI on Server |
Graham 18-Sep-2008 [1714] | A rebol gui thru ssh to the server? |
Kaj 18-Sep-2008 [1715] | No, REBOL/Services |
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