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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family

Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1666]
I did try using yahoo mail as the imap server but there was too much 
latency
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1667]
Have you worked with REBOL/Services?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1668x2]
No
Just the Beer implementation
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1670]
Does your REBOL client just download a file?
Graham
15-Sep-2008
[1671]
it does an async read of the messages
Kaj
15-Sep-2008
[1672]
Oh, IMAP of course
Kaj
16-Sep-2008
[1673x2]
Did the first build run of a stripped Syllable Server last night. 
Worked right away. Stripping out things such as printing and scanning 
reduced the footprint from 370 MB to under 250
That's with all the REBOL goodies still in :-)
Henrik
16-Sep-2008
[1675]
How much do the REBOL goodies take up?
Graham
16-Sep-2008
[1676]
what is scanning doing in a server build?
Kaj
16-Sep-2008
[1677x9]
I'm sure someone could think up a scanning server. :-) Document archiving 
or in an embedded device or so
In any case, the regular Syllable Server is meant to be full-featured
The REBOL goodies are tiny, of course
REBOL/Core is 700 KB and that includes rebbase and a bit of documentation
Cheyenne and QuarterMaster combined are 520 KB
The rest is just tens of kilobytes
So there are not likely to be any Server versions with the REBOL 
stuff left out :-)
In contrast, Ruby, which is only there for an Amazon S3 script, and 
which is one of the smallest popular languages, takes 11 MB
Oh, ORCA takes about 450 KB, including the library and the documentation
Graham
16-Sep-2008
[1686]
so, do you have a ruby script that backs up the server data to S3?
Kaj
17-Sep-2008
[1687x3]
Yeah, it's the standard S3Sync tool that's included. Read the Server 
manual for an example of backing up a directory
By the way, I got us on DistroWatch, the main index of Linux distributions:
http://distrowatch.com/syllable
Graham
17-Sep-2008
[1690]
That's great.
Kaj
17-Sep-2008
[1691]
Yeah, should get us some attention
Robert
17-Sep-2008
[1692]
Is ORCA still in development?
Kaj
17-Sep-2008
[1693]
Yes. It's certainly not finished :-)
Robert
17-Sep-2008
[1694x2]
Should have read: still being developed.
So how close are you for a full Rebol clone?
Kaj
17-Sep-2008
[1696x3]
I know. :-)
Karl sporadically makes bug fixes. I will start doing that, too, 
and enhancements, when I get to it
I don't think it's ever going to be a full clone, because REBOL keeps 
developing
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1699]
A server appliance ready yet?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1700x2]
No, I'm out visiting several conferences to promote Syllable Server. 
Giving a talk on Saturday
Porting and configuring Dovecot and RebelBB will take some time, 
anyway
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1702]
Had ,many downloads?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1703x2]
Around 500 at a rough estimate so far
Much less than for Desktop, but not too shabby for a console server 
without an installer
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1705x2]
no installer will put people off!
well, until the vm is released :)
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1707]
I know. I didn't take it out, though
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1708]
didn't take out what?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1709]
The installer. It just doesn't exist :-)
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1710]
will you write an orca installer?  Or rebol one?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1711]
A new ORCA one, combined with Syllable Desktop
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1712]
so, no gui then?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1713]
Syllable GUI on Desktop, maybe a remote REBOL GUI on Server
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1714]
A rebol gui thru ssh to the server?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1715]
No, REBOL/Services