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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family

Kaj
17-Sep-2008
[1698]
I don't think it's ever going to be a full clone, because REBOL keeps 
developing
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1699]
A server appliance ready yet?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1700x2]
No, I'm out visiting several conferences to promote Syllable Server. 
Giving a talk on Saturday
Porting and configuring Dovecot and RebelBB will take some time, 
anyway
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1702]
Had ,many downloads?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1703x2]
Around 500 at a rough estimate so far
Much less than for Desktop, but not too shabby for a console server 
without an installer
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1705x2]
no installer will put people off!
well, until the vm is released :)
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1707]
I know. I didn't take it out, though
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1708]
didn't take out what?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1709]
The installer. It just doesn't exist :-)
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1710]
will you write an orca installer?  Or rebol one?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1711]
A new ORCA one, combined with Syllable Desktop
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1712]
so, no gui then?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1713]
Syllable GUI on Desktop, maybe a remote REBOL GUI on Server
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1714]
A rebol gui thru ssh to the server?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1715]
No, REBOL/Services
Graham
18-Sep-2008
[1716x2]
interesting
do you have time for a day job?
Kaj
18-Sep-2008
[1718x3]
Doing it all properly :-)
Haven't had for years, but will have to make time for it now
Getting good responses on the conferences
Robert
19-Sep-2008
[1721]
Kaj, please make a XEN DomU out of it. I will give it immediatly 
a try. I'm searching for a base distro that can be used to create 
a complete application stack.
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1722x4]
Uhm, I'll have to find out how to make that, first :-)
What we have been producing so far are VMware images that can be 
used in several virtualisers, with an unchanged Syllable Server installation
I think a Xen image would require the Syllable Server installation 
to support Xen in the kernel. Is that correct?
It will be extra work to figure this out, so it will take me some 
more time
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1726]
or Robert can switch to using vmware.
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1727]
Yeah :-)
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1728]
How's the dovecot port going?  :)
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1729x2]
Not. I'm still on the road
On the first conference we were invited to a 3D virtual worlds conference 
tomorrow in Amsterdam, with the ex CEO of Linden Labs and a university 
developing OpenCroquet speaking :-)
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1731]
Don't road warriors carry laptops with them?  :)
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1732x2]
http://www.eduverse.org
Yeah, but ten year old laptops take a week to compile a modern Linux 
distro
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1734]
a conference on virtual worlds should have their conference in a 
virtual world
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1735]
They're nice for running Syllable and REBOL, though, and demoing 
their efficiency
Mchean
22-Sep-2008
[1736]
opencroquet? the squeak project?
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1737]
Yup
Mchean
22-Sep-2008
[1738]
what did you think?
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1739]
I agree, and I thought of the irony that people in Amsterdam want 
everything to happen in Amsterdam
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1740]
I guess they couldn't decide which platform to use
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1741]
I explained to them that REBOL is symbol based versus Smalltalk being 
object based, which makes it fundamentally more suitable for DSLs, 
and they understood right away
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1742]
so, what's the relationship to 3D?
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1743]
Virtual worlds are 3D these days
Graham
22-Sep-2008
[1744]
I meant Syllable
Kaj
22-Sep-2008
[1745x3]
So it will still be a challenge to offer them REBOL solutions
Everyone I met on the conferences is building applications out of 
multiple diverse open source parts. I'm offering all of them to solve 
their integration issues by taking the boring parts out of their 
hands and integrating them in a custom Linux platform
They're all very interested