World: r3wp

I guess they couldn't decide which platform to use

I explained to them that REBOL is symbol based versus Smalltalk being 
object based, which makes it fundamentally more suitable for DSLs, 
and they understood right away

so, what's the relationship to 3D?

Virtual worlds are 3D these days

I meant Syllable

So it will still be a challenge to offer them REBOL solutions

Everyone I met on the conferences is building applications out of 
multiple diverse open source parts. I'm offering all of them to solve 
their integration issues by taking the boring parts out of their 
hands and integrating them in a custom Linux platform

They're all very interested

ok

kaj asus EEE PC  is your friend  ^^

A friend of mine was having difficulty installing Syllable the other 
day. He runs VirtualBox, because he has had more luck with that than 
VMware Server. I explained why there would be differences between 
the two, but it would still be nice for both to be supported. I realize 
that there is not as much point to supporting VirtualBox as it is 
more like VMware Workstation, not Server. Still, it has better memory 
allocation characteristics than VMware.

He has a recent enough processor that it has virtualization extensions, 
so VirtualBox isn't bad on it.

VirtualBox is weird. It has problems running Syllable and it has 
bad performance characteristics

It should work, though, but did he use the VirtualBox boot option?

Did he try Syllable Desktop or Syllable Server?

What were the symptoms and failure messages?

Alphe, EeePC is weird, too. It has some deviating hardware parts, 
so we don't support all hardware, yet. The shipped Xandros Linux 
also has some strange characteristics that make it hard to install 
other systems

deviant you mean more or less than usual laptop muwwwwwwwahahahahaha 
...

I remember the old days when i was in university 10  years ago and 
i was animating linux install parties with april association ... 
that was always a pain to install linux on laptop

Various Linux distros have a hard time supporting the EeePC, too

hum my bro have a eee pc 1000 H and the only problem he face is with 
wifi and he is absolutly not a computer specialist. This can be solved 
by ndiswraper or madwifi patching it

now as he is not a specialist  he can't tell me if  it's ubuntu suport 
the sound properly or the intenal webcam

ok so here is another idea Syllabe on PSP as Homebrew ?

ho ok sorry forget it  ;P that was a joke

Some ideas take many months to implement

yes ... ans PSP is worst than a eee PC ...

I mean in the scope of closed hardwar unstandard etc... pda and portable 
consoles like PSP  or DS are a master scale

He tried Syllable Desktop.

The install CD or the live CD?

Install CD I think.

It seems to me that different VM platforms require thinner or thicker 
guest additions. VirtualBox seems to require more out of its guest 
code, and works quite badly without it. VMware doesn't require as 
much out of its guest code, so that code is easier to implement, 
and the VM works OK without it.

I told him that you had said that the installer doesn't work very 
well.

It just needs one or two kernel boot options that aren't on the current 
install CD. He should read the VirtualBox section in our FAQ, or 
use the development build

Those thicker VirtualBox guest additions make the guest a more civilized 
client of the host OS, but without them it doesn't work well.

I tend to need the Server stuff more (auto startup, headless operation, 
remote console), so I don't use VirtualBox myself, nor do I have 
an available computer on which I can install VirtualBox, since all 
compatible computers I own have VMware Server installed, even this 
laptop.

you can co-install virtualbox

I don't want to - I have enough overhead as it is.

it only takes up hard drive space!

How many virtual network adapters do I need to configure? How many 
bridges? How many DHCP and NAT services?

On this laptop I already have 4 virtual network adapters, 2 physical, 
1 bridge, one DHCP service and 1 NAT. Adding VirtualBox would mean 
adding 1 more virtual adapter, 1 bridge or Internet Connection Sharing 
(another DHCP/NAT service), either of which I would have to reconnect 
manually depending on which physical adapter I am using.

ahhh....

Can Syllable run things like vbulletin ?  Needs php and mysql

And can syllable be installed on to such places as slicehost ?

Syllable is now also listed in the distributions list of LWN:

http://lwn.net/Distributions/

Syllable Server can basically run anything Linux can run, but for 
many things there are no binary packages yet

so, you have to compile yourself ?

Yes, according to the regular instructions of a package for Linux

We have a build recipe for PHP, which standardises the procedure, 
but I haven't tried it on Syllable Server yet

You could install Apache for PHP according to the Syllable Server 
manual

If you want to run PHP on Cheyenne, you have to patch it according 
to the Cheyenne instructions