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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Kaj 7-May-2010 [1986x3] | No, it's additional. We've long planned the graphical Linux to force a migration path for Syllable Desktop |
They're developed in lockstep, so most of the work I do on the Linux systems also goes into Desktop | |
There will also be a separate name for the desktop Linux, but I'll keep that under wraps for now | |
Gregg 13-May-2010 [1989] | Thanks for the update Kaj! |
Kaj 6-Jun-2010 [1990x12] | I haven't officially announced it yet, but I just released Syllable Server 0.4: |
http://web.syllable.org/Linux/downloads.html | |
This release focuses on maturing existing functionality, improving security, ongoing system restructuring, and making the system a suitable base for third-party package managers. | |
Many included software packages have been upgraded, including REBOL/Core (2.7.7), Cheyenne/UniServe (current development version with WebSockets) and QuarterMaster | |
This is the first Syllable release to include Boron, the successor to ORCA, the open source REBOL implementation | |
For those familiar with Linux and other Unix systems, it's interesting to note that some heavy system restructuring has been applied to make the system more understandable, by ditching as much of the ancient Unix legacy as possible. For example, the common software package layout has been restructured like this: | |
etc -> settings bin -> programs sbin -> system-programs libexec -> framework/executables lib -> framework/libraries include -> framework/headers share/aclocal -> framework/AutoConfigure share/pkgconfig -> framework/PackageConfigure lib/pkgconfig -> framework/PackageConfigure share -> data share/doc -> documentation man -> manuals share/man -> manuals info -> manuals/info share/info -> manuals/info | |
Standard user names have also been sanitised. For example, the super user account has been renamed from "root" to "system" | |
Here's the full change log: | |
http://web.syllable.org/Server/Changes.txt | |
The updated manual, which is quite extensive, if I may say so, and explains the key abilities of the system step by step: | |
http://web.syllable.org/Server/README-SyllableServer.txt | |
Kaj 8-Jun-2010 [2002x2] | It's on OSNews now: |
http://www.osnews.com/story/23427/Syllable_Server_0_4_Released | |
Graham 8-Jun-2010 [2004] | When will you have an install script for the server? |
Kaj 8-Jun-2010 [2005x2] | That will still take a while. Before that is useful I need to produce a live CD, and many other things also need to be done |
Manual installation is really not difficult with Syllable, though | |
Graham 8-Jun-2010 [2007x2] | so the vm I downloaded yesterday is really old?? |
So, how about a screencast of the manual installation? | |
Kaj 8-Jun-2010 [2009x2] | Server 0.4 was already published yesterday, but the VM version is still really old, yes |
A screencast would be nice. I don't have time for it, though. It would be a nice thing for someone to contribute | |
Graham 8-Jun-2010 [2011] | So the install takes a really long time?? |
Kaj 8-Jun-2010 [2012x3] | No, one last week took fifteen minutes to unpack the files on a very old 266 MHz P2 |
(Which is running our ten AltME worlds, by the way) | |
I love turning machines that were discarded as a firewall appliance into worldwide groupware servers :-) | |
Graham 8-Jun-2010 [2015] | So, doing a screencast of a vm installation on virtualbox might take less than 15 mins which you don't have? :) |
Kaj 8-Jun-2010 [2016x4] | That was the graphical version, mind you. It would unpack Server in five minutes |
You asked about installation, not about making a screencast | |
I make operating systems, not movies, so I'd have to arrange a film education for myself | |
Hence, a perfect opportunity for a volunteer with the right qualifications | |
Graham 8-Jun-2010 [2020] | screencast to me just means copying the screen as you do things .. doesn't imply the need for sound or anything else unless you want to get fancy. |
Kaj 8-Jun-2010 [2021] | Sounds like you have the right qualifications and computer setup, then |
Graham 8-Jun-2010 [2022] | not the right qualifications |
Kaj 8-Jun-2010 [2023] | Well, to be honest, the entire Server manual after the installation is pretty much like the installation section, so someone who needs a screencast to get through the installation would also need a screencast for every aspect of operation after that |
Kaj 9-Jun-2010 [2024x2] | Now it's on DistroWatch: |
http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06126 | |
Kaj 10-Jun-2010 [2026x2] | With this release we've entered the month ranking at place 100 after a day: |
http://distrowatch.com/stats.php?section=popularity | |
Kaj 1-Jul-2010 [2028] | We've topped out at position 57 in the above DistroWatch month list |
NickA 1-Jul-2010 [2029] | CongratsKaj :) |
Kaj 1-Jul-2010 [2030] | Thanks |
ddharing 13-Aug-2010 [2031x2] | Is it possible to put the bootable ISO image onto a USB key to install from that? I would like to try both Syllable Desktop and Server on my Acer Aspire One. It doesn't have a CD-ROM, though. |
It's a netbook. | |
Kaj 14-Aug-2010 [2033x3] | Sorry, not yet. We've been working towards installing from and to USB sticks, but it's not complete yet. Syllable Desktop can install from a USB CD player with the regular install CD, so that's the normal way to install on a netbook or other machine without a built-in CD player |
We don't have an install image to put on a USB stick to install from there, but the steps from a USB install CD should be small. There is some preparation for it on the install CD, so if you know your way around such things you could try to complete that configuration | |
However, there's still a limitation in Syllable Desktop involved: | |
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