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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family
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Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [234x2] | http://www.7-zip.org |
BZip2 compresses quite a bit better than Zip, and the CDs are fairly big, so... | |
Graham 7-Sep-2005 [236x2] | Original archive was 34.7 Mb, and recompressed with zip was 45.2 Mb. |
Howver, the time taken to search for a bzip2 decompressor, download and install, and then decompress was longer than the time it would have taken to download the extra 10Mb. Maybe offer people the choice of what archive they want. | |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [238x2] | Well, you could always seed a Bittorrent tracker with that Zip you made |
This is a DIY project. We don't even produce the live CD ourselves | |
Graham 7-Sep-2005 [240x2] | You might want to get someone to check the english. It says "loginning in... " |
I guess I need to read some docs, as there are two accounts - one user and one root. Both require passwords. I guessed the user account password of "guest". Didn't know what the root password was. Reached a low res screen, and network chipset not detected ( using a Centrino chipset ). | |
Gabriele 7-Sep-2005 [242x2] | there really is people who can't decompress bz2? :P |
WinRAR can. the bzip2 utility can be downloaded for windows too. (you don't have wget? diff? bzip2? shame on you :P) | |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [244x4] | I corrected the login text. Thanks for the report |
The root password is "root" :-) | |
I guess you don't have bzip2 if you pay a few hundred bucks for the privilege of running Windows XP. Older Windows versions come with nothing, XP comes with Zip. Syllable comes for free with Zip, GZip and BZip2 installed, and the Archiver utility has more | |
640x480 Is the default screen setting. It doesn't upset monitors, and the login screen doesn't need more. Can you set a higher resolution: is your video chip supported? | |
Rebolek 7-Sep-2005 [248] | Does Syllable have some decent browser (CSS2, DHTML)? There is ABrowse, but I'm unable to find it's feature set. |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [249x3] | ABrowse is based on a recent version of the KHTML rendering engine from KDE's Konqueror |
So that's the base feature set. The Syllable wrapper around it is not very featureful yet | |
ABrowse is starting to shape up nicely, though | |
Rebolek 7-Sep-2005 [252] | I've never seen Konqueror, but I've read something about KHTML |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [253x2] | Apple uses it in Safar, but we did that many years earlier :-) |
Safari | |
Graham 7-Sep-2005 [255] | At least I can confirm that it boots quickly from cd. I was expecting to see the Amiga browser of the same name viz: ABrowse. |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [256] | Yeah, that's a historical coincidence :-) |
Graham 7-Sep-2005 [257] | My Centrino laptop uses Intel 82852/82855 GM/GME graphics chip set ... do you know if that is supported? |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [258x6] | Sounds like it should be supported: |
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/syllable/syllable/system/sys/appserver/appserver/drivers/video/ | |
If you go to Syllable menu -> About -> Advanced -> Devices tab, you can see what's supported on your machine | |
Your chip is listed in this driver file, so it should work: | |
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/syllable/syllable/system/sys/kernel/drivers/graphics/i855/driver.c?rev=1.2&view=auto | |
The fact alone that you have a picture probably means that the driver is active, because many laptops with integrated Intel video don't have VESA2 support in the BIOS, so there's nothing to fall back on for Syllable | |
Graham 7-Sep-2005 [264] | Maybe the live cd prevents me from changing video resolution? |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [265x3] | Can't you change it, then? You should at least be able to set a few more resolutions. With the VESA driver, the resolutions and refresh rate are just more limited |
You do have to log in as root, though, to use most of the preference applets | |
That's something we should make more flexible, but I fear that most people are currently working as root | |
Rebolek 7-Sep-2005 [268] | Kaj, what about Open Office port? Is it possible? |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [269] | It will be an awful lot of work, but it should happen someday, and then we will really be in business |
Graham 7-Sep-2005 [270] | probably .. but since I didn't know the root password, I was logged in as user. |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [271x2] | OpenOffice 2 is a good candidate, though, because they've made the GUI much more native |
ABIWord will probably happen first, though | |
Rebolek 7-Sep-2005 [273] | Because what I expect from usable OS is: browser, communication tool (IRC, ICQ, ...), audio software, some office suite (it's needed sometimes), REBOL and some games (or UAE ;). That's what I'm using 99% of time. |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [274] | Pretty similar to my requirements. We're getting there, but it will take a while. We do have a stated goal for this year to get the system ready to be the primary system for ourselves |
Rebolek 7-Sep-2005 [275] | that souns great |
Kaj 7-Sep-2005 [276x2] | We're on the virge of having reasonable browser, email, chat and SDL games. I believe UAE is a priority for our project leader. :-) |
If you're familiar with a Unix command line, there are a lot of standard CLI and Curses apps you could use to fill the gaps | |
Graham 9-Sep-2005 [278] | Seems Carl has ported Rebol to run on Genesi's PegasosPPC - see blog. Perhaps you might be in with a chance with Syllable? |
Kaj 16-Sep-2005 [279x2] | That's just Core on PPC Linux. Both ports on PPC and on Linux were already done, so this is little more than saying that Core 2.6 still builds successfully on those systems |
Still, porting Core to Syllable would likely not be very difficult | |
Graham 16-Sep-2005 [281x2] | Perhaps you might be able to persuade Carl then if it is likely not too difficult. |
Then Syllable can use core as default scripting language. | |
Kaj 16-Sep-2005 [283] | No, we couldn't. It would have to be open source. There's no point in Syllable being open source if we would accept closed source into the base system |
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