World: r3wp

The web viewer of SF CVS is back

This also makes the source of the R3 extensions available again

Pertaining to the previous discussion in "Red": If you do
readelf -h `which ls` | grep Type
on Syllable, what type do you get? EXEC, DYN, something else?

DYN

Cool, thanks.

I've written a build recipe for the Fossil version control system:

http://syllable.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/syllable/syllable/system/apps/utils/Builder/packages/Fossil--current/

Of course it just works on Syllable Server, because that's Linux, 
but for Syllable Desktop it turns out to need the newest Syllable 
development build for advanced facilities

So we can use it as a cross-platform solution

What is the default root password for Desktop edition?

root

Desktop version runs fine on VMware 7.0.

Ah, one more convert :-)

:-)

I've produced a new Syllable Desktop live CD, shipping with REBOL 
3 and Boron:

http://web.syllable.org/pages/get-Syllable.html#Live-CD

@Kaj: I just tried SyllableDesktop-0.6.6-LiveCD.i586 on my Asus Eee 
PC netbook yesterday. It worked when I select "USB 1 only / Asus 
Eee PC" after giving lots of "panic" msg during boot. But then it 
worked great.

Why was it having panic attacks for?

I don't know, it said "flush_block ... failed" several time (20-30 
times may be) I thought that it doesn't work but then desktop appeared 
and it works fine.

Nice to hear

The panics can be ignored. That's not normally the case, but it is 
because it's running on a CD while it is expecting a writable medium

The parts of the system that count are moved into a RAM disk during 
start-up

Endo, what's the resolution of your EeePC screen? I'm interested 
if the default 800x600 resolution works on 800x480 netbooks

By the way, it's on OSNews now:

http://www.osnews.com/story/24852/New_Syllable_Desktop_Live_CD_Released

my screen res. is 1024x600 but Syllable opens 800x600 screen and 
there is only 640x480 and 800x600 options, no 1024x600.

I also switched to turkish-q keyboard, I able to write turkish letters 
with no problem. That is nice, becuase on many OSes turkish letters 
are problematic.

Cool, thanks for the report :-)

Apart from the Alt-Function keys, did you also try the Preferences/Screen 
applet? I think the offered resolutions are a function of the video 
driver. Some drivers know some wide screen resolutions, but not many

I tried Preferences/Screen applet, there was just 640x480 and 800x600. 
I will try live cd on my desktop pc this weekend also, it is an old 
amd athlon.

OK, thanks. To get wide screen resolutions, the driver for your video 
chip would need to be updated

There is no USB bootable version, right? It could be good because 
it is a writable media.

No, we've been working on it, but the boot sequence in the kernel 
doesn't support it yet

Petr, thanks for your support on OSNews. :-) I can use it

yeah - I don't know who Cipri is, and I also think that Syllable 
progress is kind of questionable to become mainstream OS soon :-), 
but otoh why to put it down that way?

He was associated several years ago with some people who put up a 
big fight in the project and eventually left and supposedly forked 
Syllable because they knew everything better, never to be heard from 
again. Apart from the trolls that are still roaming around, that 
is

They're basically mad at themselves for failing, but some of them 
are unable to see that

What they did succeed in, unfortunately, was scaring many people 
away, who were often already unable to make up their mind between 
all the alternative systems

You saw the techniques they are using

Slashdot with Kaj:

   http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/08/30/0245218/A-Talk-With-Syllable-OS-Lead-Developer-Kaj-de-Vos

you beat me by 3 minutes on that link :)

ugh, i was just thinking about this modular approach today. have 
i just experienced clairvoyance?! :)


By having all those services available to all applications as sub-systems 
or extensions of the operating, applications can take advantage of 
them without having to manage external processes, or without external 
processes running autonomously. They then all execute within the 
application's context, as extensions to it.


i had something very close to this in my mind a few hours ago. don't 
know how it appeard. i definitely didn't think about syllable. im 
not following it closely...

Kaj: have u ever tried syllable on an OLPC?

machine

No, they're scarce. I've seen one only once. We have to use our resources 
very sparingly, so we focus on the mainstream

I looked into it at the time. I don't remember the details, but some 
hacking would probably be needed in the boot process and such

I met a guy in singapore who has one. i think he is back to germany. 
he is very passionate about it; maybe he would play around with it

he is one of the core devs of http://www.foresightlinux.org/

Martin BŠhr

so i think he might be happy to try it and would need just a little 
of your resources in form of a little guidance