World: r3wp

http://www.osnews.com/story/24852/New_Syllable_Desktop_Live_CD_Released

my screen res. is 1024x600 but Syllable opens 800x600 screen and 
there is only 640x480 and 800x600 options, no 1024x600.

I also switched to turkish-q keyboard, I able to write turkish letters 
with no problem. That is nice, becuase on many OSes turkish letters 
are problematic.

Cool, thanks for the report :-)

Apart from the Alt-Function keys, did you also try the Preferences/Screen 
applet? I think the offered resolutions are a function of the video 
driver. Some drivers know some wide screen resolutions, but not many

I tried Preferences/Screen applet, there was just 640x480 and 800x600. 
I will try live cd on my desktop pc this weekend also, it is an old 
amd athlon.

OK, thanks. To get wide screen resolutions, the driver for your video 
chip would need to be updated

There is no USB bootable version, right? It could be good because 
it is a writable media.

No, we've been working on it, but the boot sequence in the kernel 
doesn't support it yet

Petr, thanks for your support on OSNews. :-) I can use it

yeah - I don't know who Cipri is, and I also think that Syllable 
progress is kind of questionable to become mainstream OS soon :-), 
but otoh why to put it down that way?

He was associated several years ago with some people who put up a 
big fight in the project and eventually left and supposedly forked 
Syllable because they knew everything better, never to be heard from 
again. Apart from the trolls that are still roaming around, that 
is

They're basically mad at themselves for failing, but some of them 
are unable to see that

What they did succeed in, unfortunately, was scaring many people 
away, who were often already unable to make up their mind between 
all the alternative systems

You saw the techniques they are using

Slashdot with Kaj:

   http://developers.slashdot.org/story/11/08/30/0245218/A-Talk-With-Syllable-OS-Lead-Developer-Kaj-de-Vos

you beat me by 3 minutes on that link :)

ugh, i was just thinking about this modular approach today. have 
i just experienced clairvoyance?! :)


By having all those services available to all applications as sub-systems 
or extensions of the operating, applications can take advantage of 
them without having to manage external processes, or without external 
processes running autonomously. They then all execute within the 
application's context, as extensions to it.


i had something very close to this in my mind a few hours ago. don't 
know how it appeard. i definitely didn't think about syllable. im 
not following it closely...

Kaj: have u ever tried syllable on an OLPC?

machine

No, they're scarce. I've seen one only once. We have to use our resources 
very sparingly, so we focus on the mainstream

I looked into it at the time. I don't remember the details, but some 
hacking would probably be needed in the boot process and such

I met a guy in singapore who has one. i think he is back to germany. 
he is very passionate about it; maybe he would play around with it

he is one of the core devs of http://www.foresightlinux.org/

Martin BŠhr

so i think he might be happy to try it and would need just a little 
of your resources in form of a little guidance

Syllable on a touchpad ?

1 letter should be enough for that, no need for a full syllable... 
:)

Apparently the webos has not been optimized yet to run on anything 
.. so perhaps a lean desktop OS might work well?

oh, u meant the hp touchpad... i thought about the input device... 
how can someone name a tablet like this?! ...

Kaj: ok, just reading the rest of the article. i wont bother with 
this olpc guy then, probably, unless he is really enthusiastic and 
willing to figure it out on it's own mostly :)

btw, the vmware image didnt fully boot on virtualbox 3.1.4... i got 
a blank black screen after the character based one and then i had 
a mouse cursor too, but thats it

Didn't we discuss that before?

As far as I know, WebOS is ARM only, so Syllable doesn't currently 
run on those devices

WebOS is quite similar to Syllable Server, though

(http://www.osnews.com/story/23309/webOS_Boots_Runs_on_PC_Hardware_Without_Modifications/)

(But of course, the few available webOS devices are all ARM-based.)

Ah, I must have forgotten about that. Is the emulator based on an 
x86 version?

Onetom, Henrik had Syllable working on VirtualBox in January here 
above. Other people have reported failure with some VirtualBox and 
VMware versions. You have to follow the right procedure, and then 
it still depends on emulator versions

Okay, Syllable 0.6.6 runs in VirtualBox 4.1.2 but very slow on a 
2.26GHz Core2Duo Mac given 128MB RAM to it :/

Congratulations. Anything specific you needed to do?

VB was always very slow and buggy for us, but some people say Syllable 
runs OK in it. In any case, emulators slow down systems tremendously. 
Some alternative systems such as Haiku are optimised for emulators, 
but we have always optimised for real hardware. Emulators claim to 
emulate real hardware, so we consider it their problem to run Syllable 
acceptably

However, if you can get VMware or a recent QEmu, Syllable has a video 
driver for it that makes a big difference

http://www.techworld.com.au/article/398892/developer_q_syllable_os/

Kaj, that was an excellent article on Syllable.  Thanks Alan for 
posting it.

Thanks!

Link to "Buy the premium CD" is broken : http://www.lulu.com/syllable
-> 404

Yes, unfortunately, Lulu has stopped making CDs, and simply removed 
all CD projects

I'll have to do something about it, but I'm too busy

I have been asked if an IRC channel existed for Syllable somewhere? 
If not, opening one on freenode could be a good idea?