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[Syllable] The free desktop and server operating system family

Evgeniy Philippov
13-Jan-2012
[2490x7]
At the time of writing, it is not possible to give a definitive
instruction 
for building the entire Syllable base system.
 :(((
AltME! Ate part of my text!
Hmm I'm completely lost in this README (at the url above). What should 
I do to recompile appserver/appserver/.../ps2mouse/ps2mouse.cpp ?
And to run the system with a modified ps2mouse.cpp ?
Kaj, waiting for your answer to the last two questions.
It seems there at ps2mouse.cpp init of Intellimouse is underwritten. 
It seems I understand which line the .cpp lacks.
I need to insert it and recompile and run.
Kaj
13-Jan-2012
[2497x11]
Syllable can't write to NTFS, only read from it
http://web.syllable.org/pages/about.html#Desktop
FAT is the preferred format for exchanging data with other systems
Our forum is the designated place for reporting bugs. Here, basically 
only I will see it
We've had to block many mail domains from the forum, though, due 
to spambots, including gmail.com
ls is from GNU CoreUtils. Newer versions may have Unicode support, 
but we're stuck with our current version for now because newer ones 
require more support in Syllable
It could also be a problem in the interfacing between Syllable, CoreUtils 
and the NTFS driver. Maybe it should communicate somewhere that Unicode 
is wanted
Ext2/3 is the same: read only
The Builder README is indeed what you need for compiling, but you 
shouldn't build the complete system, because that's huge and very 
complicated
Section 3.6, "Building a single system module", is what you need
Some modules have dependencies, but I think you can build the PS/2 
driver on its own. After that you need to replace the one in the 
system with it, and then you may have to restart
Evgeniy Philippov
14-Jan-2012
[2508x7]
Ok; all is clear. Re-reporting relevant bugs at the forum.
Posted all bugs at one topic http://forum.syllable.org/viewtopic.php?p=7960#7960
No questions there ATM.
I fetched devel. files for 0.6.6 and built ok there. 


I've tried to hack the obvious but did not succeed; mouse doesn't 
work. It is necessary to compare Linux drivers with Sy.
Fixed!!! See the patch on a developer mailing list.
Mouse fixed, not other bugs.
And Syllable is painfully slow in VESA mode on my video card. Videocards 
with closed specs must be avoided.
Kaj
15-Jan-2012
[2515x3]
Congratulations on the fix! Very cool
Nobody is using the mailing list anymore, but I'll get your patch 
from there
It's not so much that the video specs are closed, but that the drivers 
haven't been updated for years. Ideally, the Nvidia driver and others 
should be ported again from Xorg and Linux
Evgeniy Philippov
15-Jan-2012
[2518]
Kaj where can I see the source code for pppd?
Kaj
15-Jan-2012
[2519]
Unfortunately, we never got the source code for the port, so all 
there is is the official source code of the PPP project. That's why 
it isn't included in Syllable
Evgeniy Philippov
15-Jan-2012
[2520x2]
ok
It seems that without docs or source code, one cannot set up PPPoE 
using this ppp-beta1.zip.
Kaj
15-Jan-2012
[2522]
Other Russians have done it in the past. :-) I have no experience 
with PPPoE, but the existing material should be enough
Evgeniy Philippov
15-Jan-2012
[2523]
pppd options syntax seems to be common between many Unices, but a 
eth0 option  is port-specific issue
Kaj
15-Jan-2012
[2524]
Is it even necessary to set any options?
Evgeniy Philippov
15-Jan-2012
[2525x2]
sure. One has to fill two config files.
One file specifies misc. connection parameters, and another file 
contains username/password pairs.
Kaj
15-Jan-2012
[2527x2]
Here's generic info:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/ppp.html
Evgeniy Philippov
15-Jan-2012
[2529x4]
Ubuntu 11.04 and gNewSense 2.3 "deltah" still have drastically bad 
handling of PPPoE.
Kaj: the main command is "plugin rp-pppoe.so eth0"
and rp-pppoe must be ported.
rp-pppoe.so
 is a separate file missing from ppp-beta1.zip.
Kaj
15-Jan-2012
[2533x3]
All I know is that this is enough for PPPoE
Here's the site for pppd:
http://ppp.samba.org
Evgeniy Philippov
15-Jan-2012
[2536x2]
Kaj: Maybe those Russians ported something.
Invisibly.
Kaj
15-Jan-2012
[2538x2]
No, this was ported by our German star programmer
If you look for documentation of a version around five years old, 
it should match this version