World: r3wp

Kaj where can I see the source code for pppd?

Unfortunately, we never got the source code for the port, so all 
there is is the official source code of the PPP project. That's why 
it isn't included in Syllable

ok

It seems that without docs or source code, one cannot set up PPPoE 
using this ppp-beta1.zip.

Other Russians have done it in the past. :-) I have no experience 
with PPPoE, but the existing material should be enough

pppd options syntax seems to be common between many Unices, but a 
eth0 option  is port-specific issue

Is it even necessary to set any options?

sure. One has to fill two config files.

One file specifies misc. connection parameters, and another file 
contains username/password pairs.

Here's generic info:

http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/basicnet/ppp.html

Ubuntu 11.04 and gNewSense 2.3 "deltah" still have drastically bad 
handling of PPPoE.

Kaj: the main command is "plugin rp-pppoe.so eth0"

and rp-pppoe must be ported.

rp-pppoe.so
 is a separate file missing from ppp-beta1.zip.

All I know is that this is enough for PPPoE

Here's the site for pppd:

http://ppp.samba.org

Kaj: Maybe those Russians ported something.

Invisibly.

No, this was ported by our German star programmer

If you look for documentation of a version around five years old, 
it should match this version

Hmm. How one could find it... Hmm hmm hmm but anyway ultimately pppd/pppoe 
should be re-ported for Syllable, with full source code.

This seems to be a query: pppd 2007 manuals

Ahh. Google has options for date range.

Yes, we need many re-ports, unfortunately. We've always tried to 
centralise development as much as possible, but there's still much 
chaos in a volunteer project

Linux docs from 2006 still mention rp-pppoe.so which is hosted at 
http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/pppoe

In Linux, PPPoE support is a kernel module, separate from pppd. I 
don't know if that's the Roaring Penguin implementation, possibly 
not

The Syllable package also has a kernel module. I would guess it's 
a port from the Linux module

Ubuntu has RP. I will now check gNewSense.

Did you run the installation scriptlet?

Ah. I got it. I will try to specify that "ppp/if" as a substitute 
for rp-pppoe.so.

Rebooting into Sy.

It's a kernel module, not a user space library

Kaj: Of course I ran it.

As far as I know, it's not RP

ok

Just checking :-)

I think you're hampered by knowledge. :-) Our Russion users who got 
it to work were plain users

gNewSense uses rp-pppoe.so

Just checked it.

Syllable doesn't!

Note that there's no speed option used in the LFS instructions

Kaj: there is a way to specify speed. When you pass a natural number 
as an option to pppd, it considers it as a speed (baud rate) setting.

OK, but do you need it, if LFS doesn't?

Syllable pppd complained about _pty_ having a 0 baud rate setting, 
which is invalid condition and pppd exits. Therefore I added a speed 
option.

But a virtual terminal pty0 is not what we want --- we need Ethernet 
card instead of pty. And to specify an Ethernet card, LFS instructions 
use "plugin rp-pppoe.so eth0"

pty, pseudo tty (terminal enulator).

Without this "plugin" line, pppd starts to send packets right into 
pty (i.e. to the screen).

I will try specifying "if" there, nevertheless. "man pppd" AFAIR 
says it's a privileged mode library