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buy the premium cd for $10.

How can i install syllable *now* without a cd-burner?

Yup

Got a cd reader Volker ?

Learning magic probably takes longer

reader is here.

I think there are such things as virtual cds ...

However, you can run it emulated. But now you're probably going to 
say that it is too big to download :-)

so, maybe you can "burn" the iso image to a virtual cd.

No, that was the reason half a year ago.. :)

AmigaOS came on 2 disks ?

OK, then run it in QEmu or VMWare or VirtualPC or even Bochs

2 disks + rom. 3 1/2 disks.

No way to put the install on some partition and install from there? 
(i have a partition, really!)

I copied my AmigaOS disks to 5.25 disks.

I didn't here back yet about select(). Nobody seems to have anything 
particular to say about it, because we never had problems with it 
:-)

btw how about xen-support? (i only know the buzzword)

How about porting JForth to Syllable ?  http://home.tampabay.rr.com/jforth/

Yes, you can install on an extra partition. Same way as you could 
install in an emulator: you need to download the base Syllable package 
instead of the CD

Just follow the instructions on our download page

Yes, Xen would awesome. Our kernel would have to be modified to support 
it. Nobody has talked about it yet, but some day someone will do 
it

Any printer support?

JForth seems to be a freeware binary distribution. Without the source, 
there's nothing to port. Also, it seems to be completely Amiga-specific. 
There are plenty of Forths that would be much easier and more useful 
to port

No printer support yet. We're planning to port and integrate CUPS 
in the 0.6.x series, which we will start soon. Basic printer support 
will probably happen in the coming year

I thought they released the source code as well ... perhaps not.

I don't see it. One of the authors later wrote a portable Forth, 
so JForth is probably not very portable

But you could try, of course :-)

I doubt it's that specific to the Amiga.  Only intuition calls etc 
would be specific.

You're welcome to try. If it's standard C code, it wouldn't be hard 
to compile

I see that the license is basically BSD, so it would probably include 
source code, indeed

The runtime portion of a Forth is extremely small, so if you can 
get that to compile, you're basically there

first off I have to find a lha decompressor!

Ah, the good old times of competing compressors

Dont know if that makes much sense, big + was good amiga-integration.

huh?

jforth i mean.

That reminds me of an old Amiga housemate that we drove crazy by 
giving him a BBS that he wanted, but compressed in a format that 
we knew he didn't have an unpacker for :-)

but that reminded me on bigforth, and i confused typing.

For two weeks, we downloaded unpackers for him that were themselves 
compressed in a format that he didn't have yet. It became ever more 
difficult to find combinations that gave him no path to unpack his 
Amiga BBS

Is that prior art to drm? :))

In the end he threw us out of his room. I can still see him raving 
on his doorstep. It was great fun :-)

I hope you're not intending to give carl the same problems should 
he attempt a port.

http://home.tampabay.rr.com/jforth/JFNews.html:))

A few years ago I visited his wedding party, so I guess we're OK 
:-)

Bad performance of that server. Had it run AtheOS, it would have 
easily survived a few Slashdottings :-)

Maybe it was mentioned there? :)

It says it compiles to 68000 machine code. This thing is very specific 
to 68000 and to Amiga. Not at all suitable for porting to Syllable

That compilation is done by the compiler. I doubt they have a lot 
of assember in it. But strong point is integration with amiga-apis 
AFAIK, i guess without it its just a forth.

What compiler? A C compiler, or some sort of Forth compiler?

forth-compiler.