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trac spam?

Bugdar was chosen without discussion by our webmaster from a while 
ago, but it's actually a fairly nice, simple tracker, that does what 
it says: just bug tracking. I've always found Trac a bit too convoluted. 
You have to buy in to the whole concept and then it defines your 
entire site. We already have a site that we built from pieces that 
we customized, so Bugdar was a reasonable addition

I do want to replace the entire site piece meal with our own REBOL 
system in the future, though

By the way, the author of Puri Chess has responded

wow, only at bug 248?

It hasn't been open that long. :-) About eight monts now. The current 
Syllable release is the first one that was produced under formal, 
public bug tracking, so a lot of bugs got squashed. Previously, we 
didn't have very many reports, and the time to fix them is scarce, 
anyway

almost seems like you should give a gift to the person who reports 
bug 250... a free copy of syllable   ;-p

Another way to look at it is that only a few percent of our code, 
like 1 or 2 %, is ours. The rest is all ported and adapted, so for 
an operating system in its development phase, made by a handful of 
people, it's amazingly stable

:-)

I promise to download the vmware image in the near future.

Great :-)

there is also the DSL which is tempting me...

If near is in the order of weeks, it would be best to wait for 0.6.4

(just for linux compatibility testing... I myself HATE linux for 
the desktop)

bah, vmware images are non aggressive things :-)  I was thinking 
before that... does syllable have a C compiler setup internally within 
syllable?

Not in the base distribution, but you only have to install the Developer's 
Delight package, and maybe a few other individual packages depending 
on what you want to compile

hehe  I love the name... I can see will ferell singing it in my mind 
 :-)

Oh well .. mea culpa.  But white should not be in this position in 
the first place.

Well, I guess white is having a bad day. :-) I don't know if it's 
the human or the computer

The 2007 Syllable Conference was held last weekend, on the Frisian 
sailing ship Stêd Sleat. We called it "Boat to Freedom". :-) My report 
is here:

http://syllable.org/story.php?id=265

OSNews is reporting on it here:

http://osnews.com/story.php/18165/Syllable-WebKit-Port-Syllable-Server

As promised, we made several important announcements. To see all 
of them, you'll have to read the article, but I'll mention the two 
that are attracting the most attention

We ported WebKit, Apple's web rendering engine, to Syllable to build 
a new browser. Our old browser was based on KHTML, the open source 
engine that Apple forked to develop into WebKit

Since the publication, Apple has already come to our mailing list 
to ask us to join their WebKit project

The second announcement is that we are introducing a server companion 
to our Syllable desktop system. Syllable Server is based on the Linux 
kernel, but otherwise as much like Syllable as possible

I think it should be not "compliments Syllable on the desktop." but 
"complements"

I know. Anything else to mention on us creating a new operating system 
and a new browser?

well, that's nice .. but I was hoping for a Rebol announcement :(

But if it means I can get a server environment that runs vmware without 
endless issues ... then it's great news!!

REBOL/Core is included in the Linux. Since it's a Linux, it didn't 
have to be ported

I didn't want to make that part of the announcements yet, to give 
people time to digest the idea of our use of Linux. That's plenty 
controversial already :-)

The next step would be porting /View to our graphical toolkit, and 
that's where REBOL 3 will come in

We haven't worked on VMWare yet, but someone will integrate it someday

I guess we're not in the loop so didn't realise that the use of linux 
was going to be contraversial.

The whole base of our project is doing things better than other systems. 
That's Linux in the first place, because we're using the same open-source 
parts. So we always get a lot of criticism from Linux fanboys for 
even trying. They're at least as good in FUD as they say Microsoft 
is towards Linux

Now we're going to get the heat from people who believe in our project 
- or say they did - for incorporating the Linux kernel

But this is still between free software fans. Once we announce that 
we are going to ship closed, proprietary REBOL in the base distribution, 
we will get into a whole other fight about violating open-source 
purity

isnt purity grand ;)

Yeah

heres hoping BeOS/Haiku wont have the same issue :(

Our purity is our focus on technical excellence, but that's almost 
impossible to explain in today's world

Haiku is BSD-licensed, so that's yet another scene

Syllable was originally an Atheos fork want it after teh other guy 
stopped writing it?

excuse my terrible typing :(

Correct

what is the purpose of server edition?

To be a server :-)

I don't understand its architecture - is it linux kernel with Syllable 
API?