World: r3wp

Haiku is BSD-licensed, so that's yet another scene

Syllable was originally an Atheos fork want it after teh other guy 
stopped writing it?

excuse my terrible typing :(

Correct

what is the purpose of server edition?

To be a server :-)

I don't understand its architecture - is it linux kernel with Syllable 
API?

Yes, basically

And - will you switch to linux kernel also for desktop edition too?

is there a danger that it will cannibalize your syllable desktop 
setups?

No, that's why we call it Syllable Server

but wouldnt a syllable server user have the best of both worlds?

The cannibalization issue is real, but we are facing it with full 
conscience. It's strategic. We have failed to attract application 
developers so far, so by putting our APIs on top of Linux we should 
finally convince them

People will write for the Linux, but the apps will run on Desktop 
as well, so it's a win

that' a good plan

Desktop will still be superior for desktop use. Our founder didn't 
create our kernel for nothing

Thanks

does syllable use a kit system like beos did?

Yes, same model, with minor variations

nice - i really liked that about beos

Another interesting effect is that we can now show very precisely 
how parts of Linux compare to ours

kit system?

It's a semi-microkernel approach

btw - is there any plan for R3 clone? Most open source parts will 
be usable, API seems to be defined, so maybe cloning effort is easier 
now? Or don't you mind using 3rd party binary packages?

We have a modular monolithic kernel, not a real microkernel. But 
still, most functionality runs in userspace servers. BeOS groups 
them and calls each a kit

Cloning R3 is pretty much beyond our reach. We only have time to 
integrate existing parts

So the strategy is to use ORCA for simple system parts, to keep the 
base system open source

but Orca will soon become absolutly forgotten imo, as R3 introduces 
lots of new things to REBOL. I think it will soon become irrelevant 
product ....

R3 will be extra functionally, but its openness should help appeace 
open-source people

ORCA is not irrelevant. It's an essential system part of both Syllable 
Server and Syllable Desktop

I know that it is important for you, but I fear it will die, once 
R3 is out, due to incompatibilities? Is ORCA still being developed?

It will be developed by us as needed

How can a language die, that is an essential part of a non-dead operating 
system?

I hope R3 model will help in that regard too and that some new ppl 
will join and Rebol will be cloned ....

That might happen in the far future, but it's not a focus of ours

is there a description of the fuctionality available now with orca?

It comes with sparse documentation

what % of core is done?

Karl said 50% of natives

I guess if Rebol/View is only going to run on server .. that would 
be my choice if I had to choose...

It's not. We must port it to our graphical environment, but then 
it should be easy to port to Desktop

Has Carl shown any interest?

Carl was going to open source view wasnt he?

In the first years, you would choose the Linux for stability and 
hardware support. Over time, you would migrate to Desktop for superior 
performance and ease of use

5 year plan?

Carl doesn't know about the Linux version yet. I gave him the Desktop 
version two years ago in Milan. It was part of the considerations 
to make R3 much more portable

Does Karl still maintain Orca?

Somewhat. There have been a few fixes over the past year

btw - why is there problem with open source and binary packages? 
Isn't linux distributing nvidia or ati binary drivers anyway?

Depends a lot on the distro. Many are against it