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[Linux] group for linux REBOL users

DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1746]
Anyone knows if rebol will run on the maemo OS as used by the Nokia 
N800 internet tablet? It is a debian-based linux derivation, so chances 
it will run.
Graham
1-Sep-2007
[1747x2]
no
I think this is in the faq
DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1749]
Really?
Graham
1-Sep-2007
[1750x2]
no, jk
but I've seen this question asked a few times now
DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1752]
Too bad, looks like a sweet device to me
Graham
1-Sep-2007
[1753]
just wait for R3 ... coming "soon"
DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1754]
I haven't been following R3 development so closely, but are you saying 
that we will be able to compile R3 from source on linux?
Graham
1-Sep-2007
[1755]
No, but they claim they will be able to port much more quickly
DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1756x2]
I 'd be foolish to cling to that, I'm still waiting the palm version...
it was promised for a long long time, then Carl said something like 
it was not feasible
Graham
1-Sep-2007
[1758]
memory constraints
DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1759x2]
Fact is there's python, scheme and a beautiful lua runtime
On the palm I mean
Graham
1-Sep-2007
[1761x3]
pehaps we need to ask him again re R3
but the PDA market is a shrinking one ...
it's all phones these days ..
DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1764x6]
Maybe, but Carl is so busy, and I don't think it's a priority for 
him
Exactly.
The nice thing about the Nokia is that it's not a pda, it's something 
really new, and for geeks it's a dream machine, it's just plain linux
Natural choices to program onboard is C or python
But you could try to compile different open source languages on it 
too
If you want linux in your pocket, it's either Sharp Zaurus or now 
the N800
Graham
1-Sep-2007
[1770]
don't you have to import the Zaurus from Japan as well?
DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1771x2]
Yes, and it's discontinued as well, so that leaves us with N800 pretty 
much unchallenged
Hook it up with a  bluetooth keyboard and you code as you please 
on the go
Graham
1-Sep-2007
[1773]
well I guess it's wait for the iphone to open up
DanielSz
1-Sep-2007
[1774]
Yeah, but the iphone is more expensive, and the screen is much smaller, 
i've been waiting for something like the N800, but that's me
Gabriele
2-Sep-2007
[1775]
the problem is the processor, otherwise core would run fine i guess. 
not that easy for view though, i think maemo doesn't use X, you need 
to use the GTK.
DanielSz
2-Sep-2007
[1776x2]
I'd be very happy with core to begin with :)
True, some people are complaining the device is uderpowered. Flash 
video will not play smoothly in fullscreen, apparently. I don't know 
if the comparison is valid, but the chip is a 330 MhZ ARM while that 
one of the five years old (?) Palm T3 was a 440MHZ ARM processor.
Kaj
3-Sep-2007
[1778]
Maemo does use X11, but it's otherwise all stripped down. LibXAW 
is in there, too, so REBOL2 wouldn't be hard to port, either
Gabriele
3-Sep-2007
[1779]
when i checked their docs a year ago or so, they did only mention 
GTK in their porting guide. if they run X, then I agree, View should 
be easy to port.
DanielSz
4-Sep-2007
[1780]
Has anyone a syntax file handy for use in gedit, the default text 
editor in gnome?
TomBon
6-Sep-2007
[1781]
was looking also but didn't find one.
try this nice editor instead: http://www.scintilla.org/
syntax file & function folding included.
also available via paketmanager -> scite
DanielSz
6-Sep-2007
[1782]
Will try it out. Thanks for the tip, TomBon.
Kaj
6-Sep-2007
[1783]
GTK almost always runs on X. Ports to other graphics systems are 
incomplete and outdated
DanielSz
9-Sep-2007
[1784x2]
On my ubuntu setup, when I click on a rebol file in nautilus, I get 
the following:
The filename "syncro.r" indicates that this file is of type "r document". 
The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "plain 
text document". If you open this file, the file might present a security 
risk to your system.


Do not open the file unless you created the file yourself, or received 
the file from a trusted source. To open the file, rename the file 
to the correct extension for "plain text document", then open the 
file normally. Alternatively, use the Open With menu to choose a 
specific application for the file.
Henrik
9-Sep-2007
[1786]
rebol files are not recognized by default. you need to assign rebol 
to .r files if that is possible.
DanielSz
9-Sep-2007
[1787x2]
info
sorry, you mean edit the mime type configuration file in gnome?
Henrik
9-Sep-2007
[1789x2]
I usually don't launch script from nautilus, but you can make a shebang 
line in the first line of the script to launch it. This way, it should 
work no matter what desktop or command line you use in Linux.
http://rebol.com/docs/core23/rebolcore-2.html#section-2.2<-- shebang 
line
DanielSz
9-Sep-2007
[1791x3]
Yes, I'm using the shebang line, i can run rebol scripts from the 
shell by typing the name: ./syncro.r
But If I click on the icon in nautilus (gnome), then I get this error 
message, although it occured only recently and for the life of me 
I can't remember what I changed
I remember that some time ago, if I would double click on the icon 
I would get a prompt wih the following options: "Run in Terminal", 
"Display", "Run". that's  what I'd like to see again
btiffin
9-Sep-2007
[1794]
DanielSz;  Depending on how many specific associations you have created... 
temporarily moving (ie backup) the  ~/.nautilus subdir may help. 
It holds a metadata subdir.  Which if you move .nautilus Nautilius 
will revert to defaults.  


Or check out these intstructions on update-mime-types.  It effects 
~/.local/share/mime/packages/Override.xml
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/6795
btiffin
13-Sep-2007
[1795]
Just installed a new favourite thing.   unclutter for X.  hides the 
mouse cursor when there is no activity; typing is SOOO much better 
now.   Over the span of my lifetime, I'll probably get at least a 
few days out of each wrist before hardcore cts sets in.  Lovin' it. 
 No more venting about a Mac only feature.  Yippee.