World: r3wp
[Linux] group for linux REBOL users
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Henrik 3-May-2008 [2146] | Louis, rebol 2.7.6? |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2147x2] | Yes. |
What is Linux PPC? | |
Geomol 3-May-2008 [2149x3] | Linux running on PowerPC hardware, I guess. |
Like some Mac computers. | |
And PlayStation 3. | |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2152x2] | rebview-ppc.gzip contains rebview-ppc.gzip. Is that what it is supposed to contain? |
I think you are right, Geomol. Neither Linux x86 nor Linux PPC will work for me. I'm probably doing something wrong. | |
Geomol 3-May-2008 [2154] | Have you tried starting rebol from a terminal program? |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2155x2] | No, that is a good idea. I'll try. |
No success. | |
Geomol 3-May-2008 [2157x2] | Hm, strange. And rebol is executable? chmod +x rebol |
The last thing, I can think of, is correct version of libc. | |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2159x2] | libc? I'm new to Linux, so is very likely something very simple. |
[Dad-:-sim-v]:~/rebol-276$ chmod +x rebol [Dad-:-sim-v]:~/rebol-276$ rebol bash: rebol: command not found | |
Geomol 3-May-2008 [2161] | I'm afraid not. You still have to be some kind of a hacker to get some things working under Linux. Try: ./rebol or put rebol in a location, where you path point to. E.g.: /usr/local/bin/ |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2162] | Ok, that works. Thanks! I can see that I have a little bit of studying to do to learn the commands . |
Geomol 3-May-2008 [2163] | You're welcome! :-) |
btiffin 3-May-2008 [2164] | Well worth the effort Louis. GNU/Linux is and always has been my favourite "IDE". :) |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2165x2] | btiffin, Well, I've had many problems with XP, so I'm ready to move on. Most of the software I'm been using on XP was ported from Linus. Only a few are genuine XP programs. So, I' |
m hoping they will work on XP runnning under Virtualbox. | |
btiffin 3-May-2008 [2167] | Wine is your friend for most Windows needs under GNU/Linux. It's just better, smarter, stronger. But ... it does require learning a little bit about computing. Something MS seems to want to keep to themselves for that whole, lock in mentality their stock price is based on. |
Louis 3-May-2008 [2168x2] | My XP machine presently freezes up randomly. It may be caused by a virus, but Kapersky can't find it. Ghost will not boot up to restore my backup. So, I'm rather disgusted with XP at the moment. Actually, I don't even want to run it under Virtualbox. |
Do you recommend wine over Virtualbox? | |
btiffin 3-May-2008 [2170x4] | Never tried Virtualbox. Wine is great though. WineHQ pumps out releases on a very regular basis. It gets better everyday and they package it up for apt, rpm and most GNU/Linux binary package managers. |
And the developers are gamers too, so the list of supported apps usually starts with games, then works down through the other applications. | |
http://www.winehq.orgfor more info. | |
I just looked. Yesterday they announced a freeze for Wine 1.0 Woohoo. Yes, there will be incompatibilities, but it seems the principals feel it's ready for a 1.0 tag. Great news. | |
Graham 3-May-2008 [2174] | Hope they fix that decimal bug. |
Louis 22-May-2008 [2175x2] | Do any of you guys use Linux without a gui? I note that |
Gimp can be loaded from the command console. Could it be loaded if there were no gui such as KDE? | |
BrianH 22-May-2008 [2177] | Unless you are using gimp script, I would think you would at least need an X server somewhere. |
Louis 22-May-2008 [2178] | If so, it seems to me that work would go a lot faster without the gui once the main Linux commands are learned. Am I right about this? |
BrianH 22-May-2008 [2179x2] | You would be wrong about the problem domain that is covered by your example app, Gimp. Other problem domains could be different though. |
I would be slowed down - I can't type very quickly. | |
Louis 22-May-2008 [2181] | What do you mean by "problem domain"? |
BrianH 22-May-2008 [2182x2] | In this case, image editing. |
I mean the general kind of problem an app is supposed to help with. | |
Louis 22-May-2008 [2184x2] | Ok, I see what you mean. I guess it would be best to keep all options open. I've just be intriged by how much faster one can, for example, locate files use the command console---it is almost instant. |
Thanks, Brian. | |
BrianH 22-May-2008 [2186x2] | coLinux-based distributiins manage just fine on Windows with just console and networking support - all of the GUI and sound stuff comes from servers running as native Windows apps and talking over the network connection. |
Most of what I do could in theory be done from the command line (I don't edit images much), but the gain or loss in productivity varies. | |
Tomc 24-May-2008 [2188] | I use have used Unix without a gui well forever, but unless gimp has an ascii rendering mode (netpbm does) it may not be what you want . |
Louis 24-May-2008 [2189] | I'm keeping KDE, but I find myself more and more using the the command console (or eshell from emacs). |
btiffin 24-May-2008 [2190] | Louis; Woohoo. CLI wins in my book. Everytime. Well I take that back a little. Windowed CLI's are just that little bit better, in terms of eye strain and quickly getting from task A to task B. Konsole is the da bomb. Note, my mileage varies. I don't really do art, but I appreciate it when I see it. Learn some bash, AWK, sed, tr and cut and there won't be a text file that can't be scrunched and munched into whatever form you desire. ;) Well, Icon too if you have reaallly complex needs. Umm, assuming REBOL doesn't already have a one-liner solution. |
Robert 25-May-2008 [2191] | I never used a GUI on Linux. The only thing I need is midnight commander. |
Kaj 27-May-2008 [2192x3] | I don't use a GUI on Syllable Server because it doesn't have one yet :-) |
If you work in a terminal emulator in an X window, you can just start graphical apps from the command line | |
If you really want to do it from the text mode console, you have to start X first. And then when you start an X app, it will open on console 7, the graphical one where X runs, so you have to switch consoles | |
Robert 30-Jun-2008 [2195] | Has anyone a link to a good GCC toolchain tutorial. Things like: How to make static-link-libs, etc. |
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