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[Linux] group for linux REBOL users

Henrik
3-May-2008
[2146]
Louis, rebol 2.7.6?
Louis
3-May-2008
[2147x2]
Yes.
What is Linux PPC?
Geomol
3-May-2008
[2149x3]
Linux running on PowerPC hardware, I guess.
Like some Mac computers.
And PlayStation 3.
Louis
3-May-2008
[2152x2]
rebview-ppc.gzip contains rebview-ppc.gzip.  Is that what it is supposed 
to contain?
I think you are right, Geomol. Neither Linux x86 nor Linux PPC will 
work for me. I'm probably doing something wrong.
Geomol
3-May-2008
[2154]
Have you tried starting rebol from a terminal program?
Louis
3-May-2008
[2155x2]
No, that is a good idea. I'll try.
No success.
Geomol
3-May-2008
[2157x2]
Hm, strange. And rebol is executable?
chmod +x rebol
The last thing, I can think of, is correct version of libc.
Louis
3-May-2008
[2159x2]
libc? I'm new to Linux, so is very likely something very simple.
[Dad-:-sim-v]:~/rebol-276$ chmod +x rebol
[Dad-:-sim-v]:~/rebol-276$ rebol
bash: rebol: command not found
Geomol
3-May-2008
[2161]
I'm afraid not. You still have to be some kind of a hacker to get 
some things working under Linux.
Try:
./rebol

or put rebol in a location, where you path point to. E.g.: /usr/local/bin/
Louis
3-May-2008
[2162]
Ok, that works. Thanks!  I can see that I have a little bit of studying 
to do to learn the commands .
Geomol
3-May-2008
[2163]
You're welcome! :-)
btiffin
3-May-2008
[2164]
Well worth the effort Louis.  GNU/Linux is and always has been my 
favourite "IDE".   :)
Louis
3-May-2008
[2165x2]
btiffin, Well, I've had many problems with XP, so I'm ready to move 
on. Most of the software I'm been using on XP was ported from Linus. 
Only a few are genuine XP programs. So, I'
m hoping they will work on XP runnning under Virtualbox.
btiffin
3-May-2008
[2167]
Wine is your friend for most Windows needs under GNU/Linux.   It's 
just better, smarter, stronger.  But ... it does require learning 
a little bit about computing.  Something MS seems to want to keep 
to themselves for that whole, lock in mentality their stock price 
is based on.
Louis
3-May-2008
[2168x2]
My XP machine presently freezes up randomly. It may be caused by 
a virus, but Kapersky can't find it. Ghost will not boot up to restore 
my backup. So, I'm rather disgusted with XP at the moment. Actually, 
I don't even want to run it under Virtualbox.
Do you recommend wine over Virtualbox?
btiffin
3-May-2008
[2170x4]
Never tried Virtualbox.  Wine is great though.  WineHQ pumps out 
releases on a very regular basis.  It gets better everyday and they 
package it up for apt, rpm and most GNU/Linux binary package managers.
And the developers are gamers too, so the list of supported apps 
usually starts with games, then works down through the other applications.
http://www.winehq.orgfor more info.
I just looked.  Yesterday they announced a freeze for Wine 1.0   
Woohoo.   Yes, there will be incompatibilities, but it seems the 
principals feel it's ready  for a 1.0 tag.  Great news.
Graham
3-May-2008
[2174]
Hope they fix that decimal bug.
Louis
22-May-2008
[2175x2]
Do any of you guys use Linux without a gui? I note that
Gimp can be loaded from the command console. Could it be loaded if 
there were no gui such as KDE?
BrianH
22-May-2008
[2177]
Unless you are using gimp script, I would think you would at least 
need an X server somewhere.
Louis
22-May-2008
[2178]
If so, it seems to me that work would go a lot faster without the 
gui once the main Linux commands are learned. Am I right about this?
BrianH
22-May-2008
[2179x2]
You would be wrong about the problem domain that is covered by your 
example app, Gimp. Other problem domains could be different though.
I would be slowed down - I can't type very quickly.
Louis
22-May-2008
[2181]
What do you mean by "problem domain"?
BrianH
22-May-2008
[2182x2]
In this case, image editing.
I mean the general kind of problem an app is supposed to help with.
Louis
22-May-2008
[2184x2]
Ok, I see what you mean. I guess it would be best to keep all options 
open. I've just be intriged by how much faster one can, for example, 
locate files use the command console---it is almost instant.
Thanks, Brian.
BrianH
22-May-2008
[2186x2]
coLinux-based distributiins manage just fine on Windows with just 
console and networking support - all of the GUI and sound stuff comes 
from servers running as native Windows apps and talking over the 
network connection.
Most of what I do could in theory be done from the command line (I 
don't edit images much), but the gain or loss in productivity varies.
Tomc
24-May-2008
[2188]
I use have used Unix without a gui  well  forever,   but unless gimp 
has an ascii rendering mode  (netpbm does) it may not be what you 
want .
Louis
24-May-2008
[2189]
I'm keeping KDE, but I find myself more and more using the the command 
console (or eshell from emacs).
btiffin
24-May-2008
[2190]
Louis;  Woohoo.  CLI wins in my book.  Everytime.   Well I take that 
back a little.  Windowed CLI's are just that little bit better, in 
terms of eye strain and quickly getting from task A to task B.  Konsole 
is the da bomb.  Note, my mileage varies.  I don't really do art, 
but I appreciate it when I see it.


Learn some bash, AWK, sed, tr and cut and there won't be a text file 
that can't be scrunched and munched into whatever form you desire. 
 ;)  Well, Icon too if you have reaallly complex needs.  Umm, assuming 
REBOL doesn't already have a one-liner solution.
Robert
25-May-2008
[2191]
I never used a GUI on Linux. The only thing I need is midnight commander.
Kaj
27-May-2008
[2192x3]
I don't use a GUI on Syllable Server because it doesn't have one 
yet :-)
If you work in a terminal emulator in an X window, you can just start 
graphical apps from the command line
If you really want to do it from the text mode console, you have 
to start X first. And then when you start an X app, it will open 
on console 7, the graphical one where X runs, so you have to switch 
consoles
Robert
30-Jun-2008
[2195]
Has anyone a link to a good GCC toolchain tutorial. Things like: 
How to make static-link-libs, etc.