World: r3wp

Henrik, I read about rebcode. Any idea why it's not going to be in 
R3? Sounded like a pretty cool feature. Although I would probably 
never use it, haven't done anything with assembler yet and I don't 
think I ever will (which usually means that something will happen 
that will force me to learn it tomorrow).

I've read the explanation multiple times, but BrianH knows it better 
than me. It has something to do with how functions are implemented 
in R3, which would make rebcode work slower in R3. Therefore it's 
better to spend time perfecting extensions, so you can write time 
critical code in C and use that instead. Rebcode is not for beginners 
anyway (but it did bring up that oldschool feeling for a while :-)).

For REBOL, supporting all platforms, theoretically if you have one 
person who knows enough about all modern OSes to maintain ports of 
R3, that should be enough for good support. Most of the compatibility 
problems are specific and known.

It'll be at least a lot easier to write C extension instead of using 
an assembly like language ^^ I've used inline C and C++ in the past 
when writing Ruby code. I don't know much about C/C++ because I always 
try not to use them, but I read that nowadays the gcc compiler has 
gotten that good that sometimes the code it produces is as fast as 
hand written assembler would be.

hi rebol R2  do not working under ubuntu 9.10 !!!!!  probleme with 
lib libstdc++5

perhaps i must do a link with libstdc++6

what i can do thank in advance

look in the debugging group, this was just discussed about a few 
hours ago!  next to last post tells you where to get the libstdc++5 
package....

thanks a lot

it is ok know

now oups

just recieved my new samsung SSD's today. Any experience here in 
what kind of filesystem (linux) is optimal, blocksize etc? found 
some technical info's in 

the web (some choose ext3 others reiser) but I would prefer some 
infos from real life users. The intention is to use the SSD for highspeed 
desktop 

virtualisation (very big single files). any tipp for speed and durability?

Durability would probably be one of the new filesystems especially 
for SSD, such as LogFS. XFS has traditionally been best for very 
large files

ext4 would be better than ext3 because of extents. for ssd's the 
best would be btrfs but that's probably not mature enough for you 
to use.

thx for the info kaj and gabriele. looks like a non journaling FS 
(ext2) and a noatime mounting will speed things up. will post some 
experiences after a while using this new stuff.

When using LD directly, how can I specify that the default libs are 
inlcuded without having to list them all?

If I use GCC to build the extecutable there is a bunch of libs implicitly 
included. Doesn't seem to be if LD is used.

Is that on C++ code? It makes a difference whether you use gcc or 
g++ to compile

To include non-standard libraries, you can use the $LDFLAGS environment 
variable

I use gcc. But you can add -### to see what gcc routes to the linker. 
And there you see all the implicit libs. But I fixed the problem 
by using gcc as the linker command.

If it's C++ code you must use g++. The gcc command has been illegal 
for that for several years

My old Amiga club president wants to try linux on  an old IBM Thinkpad 
i1400 any suggestions ? Thanks !

Kaj, it's C code.

I'm mostly using Debian, what's the better GUI: KDE or Gnome?

Seems like Gnome is the standard...

Both are the standards, depending on who you ask. That's the great 
thing about standards - there are so many of them.

Oh, and XFCE is another standard that has been gaining some traction.

Ubuntu 9.10 is quite good. I've only had to visit the terminal a 
couple of times to get SMB filesharing working since I first booted 
it 5 minutes ago and only one cryptic error message appeared.

Wow... 420MB download for stripped down Gnome...

Robert, IMHO, neither desktop is any good. KDE is well engineered 
underneath but the end user design is clueless. Here Gnome is better, 
but suffers from poor code quality, and have basically been spending 
close to 10 years rectifying that.

That's right on the mark

Allen, does that Thinkpad still have the default 32 MB memeory? Then 
there are very few Linuxes you could use

Even if it has more, to have a workable installation you need an 
extremely lean distro

Here's a very good one:

http://slitaz.org/

He'll need one of the loram-cdrom versions to work on that little 
memory:

http://download.tuxfamily.org/slitaz/iso/2.0/flavors/

Slitaz has modern applications such as the new Firefox, but running 
those will be out of the question

Here's a Linux with older apps especially for old machines:

http://www.delilinux.org/

Its development has almost stopped, though

At the danger of sounding repetitive, Syllable is one of the few 
systems you could reasonably try on such a low-memory machine - especially 
for an Amiga enthusiast

I really like the zillions distros to choose from... makes my system 
unique around the world. :-)

No modding or pimping required.

Yup, no better way to maximise complexity than to let every user 
build their own operating system

Gentoo then ;)

i think I will give Ubunto a try. IIRC it's debian based.

Looking at moblin now for a netbook for a 7-year old (school requirement). 
Anyone tried that?

I'm using Mint.

is it 7-year-old friendly? :-)