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[Linux] group for linux REBOL users

Henrik
15-Dec-2009
[3356x2]
Installing Jolicloud on a netbook, that I borrowed. We'll see how 
well it works...
well, that was it. now it's uninstalled, which was the best part.
Maxim
15-Dec-2009
[3358x2]
don't you love how everyone is suddenly copying the iphone?


and that it basically uses the paradigm of windows 1.0 , just with 
prettier graphics.  :-D
the wheel of technology... round and round it goes  ;-)
Henrik
15-Dec-2009
[3360]
Actually i thought it was a clone of the iPhone, but it turned out 
to be a thin shell above Ubuntu with a less usable browser and Gnome 
windows constantly popping up in a jarring way above the UI. I hate 
these papermaché solutions that only superficially tries to do something 
for usability.
Claude
15-Dec-2009
[3361]
someone test the new linux host kit of carl ?
Gabriele
16-Dec-2009
[3362]
Henrik, did you try Moblin?
Henrik
16-Dec-2009
[3363]
No, I did not.
Luis
16-Dec-2009
[3364]
Where Can I Download the linux host kit?
Maxim
16-Dec-2009
[3365]
you must ask carl, on R3 devchat
Kaj
16-Dec-2009
[3366]
I'm testing the Linux host kit. Anything you want to know?
Luis
17-Dec-2009
[3367]
I am interested in Rebol on ARM Android  platforms.
Pekr
17-Dec-2009
[3368]
Kaj - I want to know, if 'call command is part of the core, or the 
host. Because its current implementation sucks big time and I want 
/wait and /output refinements back :-)
PeterWood
17-Dec-2009
[3369]
The Linux version of R3 of call has the /wait option by default :-(
Pekr
17-Dec-2009
[3370]
uh, that should be ... reported :-)
PeterWood
17-Dec-2009
[3371]
I reported the problem for OS X - #914 - as far as I know its the 
same code on Linux.
Pekr
17-Dec-2009
[3372]
mine is here - http://curecode.org/rebol3/ticket.rsp?id=1223&cursor=26
Kaj
17-Dec-2009
[3373x4]
So far, R3 for Linux is only there for 32 bits x86
If you're willing to test the host kit, I think Carl will be willing 
to bump the priority for other architectures
CALL having /WAIT hardwired is better than the reverse. Without /WAIT 
it's useless in most cases
You'll have to upgrade to Linux, Petr ;-)
Pekr
17-Dec-2009
[3377]
... or stay with R2 :-)
Maxim
17-Dec-2009
[3378]
now now pekr... I'll hold you to it... as you said before, everyone 
should use R3...  ;-)
Kaj
17-Dec-2009
[3379x2]
Ah, calls to the standard C system() function are in src/os/posix/host-lib.c
Maxim, I didn't want to remind Petr :-)
Maxim
17-Dec-2009
[3381]
hehehe  I keep reminding... I just like to rub his face in it everytime 
he mentions R2  ;-)
Kaj
17-Dec-2009
[3382x10]
Very good :-)
OS_Create_Process simply does
system(call);
OS_Browse does
system(cmd)
with a constructed URL
Both have an extra
int reserved
parameter, so presumably that would have to contain a code for the 
REBOL refinement
It's not clear how you could use that to implement complex refinements 
such as /output
Maxim
17-Dec-2009
[3392x2]
its possible Carl left some things for further consideration... we 
did pressure him into releasing sooner than later.
call refinements would sit in well with something easily left for 
later.
Kaj
17-Dec-2009
[3394x2]
Well, quite a bit of extra consideration is needed here. There are 
no error codes returned, either
Problem with the parameters is that the host interface will change 
when added later
Pekr
17-Dec-2009
[3396x2]
Maxim - you are off once again ...
Call has nasty bugs, which are in CC for quite some time. It is just 
general disagreement, on how Call should be implemented. BrianH stated, 
that it is now more low-level, and I objected, that I don't care, 
or it is not usefull for most use cases ...
Kaj
17-Dec-2009
[3398]
Maxim is right that they are not bugs, but a very primitive implementation
Pekr
17-Dec-2009
[3399x2]
I am now surprised the implementation differs between the platforms. 
Call is one of necessary beta quality fixes ....
ah ... well, how is that it worked with R2?
Kaj
17-Dec-2009
[3401]
Carl once said that the C code for R2 CALL is 1200 lines. If he wasn't 
joking, he has saved 600-fold over that so far
Pekr
17-Dec-2009
[3402x2]
BrianH is probably right, that because the code is part of host, 
we can fix it ourselves
1200 lines? uh :-)
Maxim
17-Dec-2009
[3404]
it had  some quirks and evolved at almost every iteration of the 
language.
Kaj
17-Dec-2009
[3405]
Yes, I expect you to start coding now :-)