World: r3wp

ups YALD :)

Well.. I use the Freetype for some time now.. it even works with 
my GTK applications.. somehow it does not show up... Im using slackware..

BTW I was succesful with using Vera.ttf rendering under OpenBSD.

oke.. with 32 and 64 in size ?

It is vectorial font so I guess this shouldn't be a problem but you 
can try other sizes or other fonts??

I think i donit see anything because i dont have any Xfd running..though 
it should be integrated wiith the latest X11 .. mmm.. let me fight 
on this one a little.. Thank for the HINT.. ill let it know if it 
runs (Must get this to work..;-)

OK, let me know how it went. Thanks.

Its strange.. I should not be needing to run a fontserver..My desktop 
is already anti-aliased with fonts and so it the rest..But rebol 
still does not display it... mmm It does load the font though..(also 
when i look with an Strace during the execute rebol does read the 
font..) it simply does not display it ..yet! ;-)

>> probe fnt1

make object! [
    name: "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/VeraMono.ttf"
    style: none
    size: 32
    color: 0.0.0
    offset: 2x2
    space: 0x0
    align: 'center
    valign: 'center
    shadow: none
]

i think i see..l.b.b

Cyphre..are those bitstream fonts you are using? I dont seem to get 
ttf working or ANY other font working in my linux view version beside 
the default fonts...

Well.. all applications on my linux machine use and anti-aliased 
and truetype fonts....so that config is correct.. But what i try 
or what i run on fonts Linux simlpy doesnt display the font.. It 
loads the font.. (checked that)...but thats it.. just a white field.. 
So .. I give up... ;-(

Rebolinth - just curious - what kind of app are you developing?

just tried it with:
fnt1: make face/font [

 name: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/VeraMono.ttf"
	size: 32
]
fnt2: make face/font [

 name: "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera/VeraMoBI.ttf"
	size: 64
]

you can see the grabbed result here: http://www.rebol.cz/~cyphre/tests/font-test.png

(I guess the VeraMono.ttf you are using is the same as in my case.)

tested on: Rebol/View 1.3.2.4.2 16-Mar-2006 Core 2.6.3 (debian build)

Interesting.I'm going to try that tonight.

And I was wondering why there are new Linux builds when the old ones 
work without problems :)

Right... Im testing with  1.3.2.4.2 8-Dec-2005.. Lets try the other..the 
 Debian release..

Oo Pekr.. I was just currious If font would work with Draw under 
linux.. since Cyphre pointed out that it worked...

because im building some draing tool ...did it under windows but 
like to build it under linux as it is my main Os...

and i LOVE fonts ;-)

HA !!!!

You dont believe it !!!

It works with the latest Debian release !!!!! GREAAAAAAATTT!!

so the rebview from the SDK262.......

Thanks Cyphre...

i mean nit works not with the rebview from sdk262

Glad to hear that ;)

The freetype support should work properly only with the new Linux 
builds: 16-Mar-2006 and up

nice .... what about OS-X - does it use FreeType too? Windows uses 
TrueType, right?

cyphre, what was done to solve the problem? is it part of needing 
to support individual distributions now?

yes good question..

Pekr: OSX will have native font support so no need for FreeType.

Henrik: the FreeType suport in Linux ports was added recently and 
there was some inconsistency problems how the FreeType wrapper worked 
between different distros. Now the code should be 'united' to work 
ok.

As you can see here: http://www.rebol.net/builds/lib-dep.htmlthe 
FreeType library is one of those libraries which might depend on 
different distro or version but it is not definitely the only one.

Any idea if it's possible to get anti-aliased fonts with AltMe beta 
or the Debian View build? Rebol is kinda standing out in a bad way 
on my desktop right now.

nope, if AltME uses standard VID, then AA fonts are still only a 
part of DRAW

Yes, AA fonts can be rendered using DRAW only in the current version. 
But I'm not sure that AA rendering of such small font sizes like 
in Altme mesages can improve reading ;)

I've tried to "rebol --reinstall" and that's funny, there's Windows 
installer with "create start menu item" and "create desktop shortcut" 
and with the great ending: 

** Script Error: create-reg has no value
** Where: register
** Near: if not create-reg/hklm key [return false]

(latest debian release)

rebolek, i guess that is just skipped on linux, but not when you 
force it. so please submit this to rambo :)

Testing Altme running vmwareplayer

vmplayer + Browser Appliance + Altme ... Appears to be working fine.

Sounds good. Which distro are you running that on ?

Used the Altme Debian Linux 3.1beta from http://www.altme.com/beta.html
, fonts aren't as good on mac or windows version. but otherwise it 
works. Nothing extra needed, just the vmwareplayer with their default 
 browser-appliance snapshot (Ubuntu with Firefox)

to clarify. The fonts suck on linux

the font suckiness varies for me. on some machines large fonts look 
really blocky, like an upscaled bitmap. it's probably more a question 
on which fonts the distribution has installed

It's dark magic. On some Linuxes, the REBOL fonts are really distorted. 
When they're as intended, it's still only old-style Helvetica that's 
not anti-aliased, so they stick out as a sore thumb compared to the 
rest of the system

is that really so difficult to get it right? Maybe RT could contract 
some linux developer to clear out how to properly do such things 
...

Fonts are one of the biggest messes on Linux/BSD, due to X11, really