World: r3wp
[Linux] group for linux REBOL users
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Graham 8-Dec-2006 [896x4] | ie. I see [A |
How does 'Launch work ? | |
In windows, it starts up another instance with the values passed as command line arguments eg, launch "test" where test is a command line argument In Linux, it appears to treat "test" as a script which it can't find. | |
Is there the equivalent of system tray functionality in Linux? | |
PeterWood 8-Dec-2006 [900] | Yes ...but ....is probably the correct answer. This paragraph might help explain the but http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/TrayIcon#Technical_Details |
Graham 8-Dec-2006 [901] | I see. |
Kaj 9-Dec-2006 [902x4] | Graham, yes, we're fixing showstoppers in Syllable one by one |
Of course, there are still many reasons why one could not use Syllable for a given job, but once we make it suitable for a job, it stays that way. It's much easier to say if it's suitable or not, while with Linux, one usually fixes all problems until one hits a showstopper, then switches distros, only to find that one of the other problems is a showstopper there | |
And then there are the regressions, where a showstopper comes back or suddenly appears in a new version of the same Linux distro. We have had regressions in Syllable, but not many, and they're usually easy to fix | |
At the accusation of reinventing the wheel, I always reply that we found that in the time we personally spent fixing Linux installations, we might as well produce an operating system for everyone | |
Graham 9-Dec-2006 [906] | Have you not managed to persuade Carl to port Rebol ? Or, are you going to use Orca ? |
Pekr 9-Dec-2006 [907x2] | Graham - isn't Syllable open-source? They imo can't accept closed source product, no? |
I mean - to become dependant upon it ... I think R3 is going to be differet product in that regard, but still open source licenses are distros rules are clear here ... | |
Graham 9-Dec-2006 [909] | I think Kaj has asked RT to port Rebol before. |
Pekr 9-Dec-2006 [910] | then R3 will be good for them. platform specific things will be open-sourced and RT will then "only" compile for target platform their rebol library ... |
Rebolek 9-Dec-2006 [911] | so there's going to be one rebol3.lib for x86, usable on win, linux, syllable, aros whatever plus some open sourced OS wrappers? |
Pekr 9-Dec-2006 [912x2] | not sure - but one lib for certain OS. There can be dependencies - library format for Windows .dll is surely different from .so from Linux, even if both do run on X86 |
but new aproach should imo help to get rebol ported to new platforms, because RT's responsibility will be to get their OS agnostic library ported ... | |
Gabriele 9-Dec-2006 [914] | Rebolek: that would be more or less correct, however the format of the library usually depends on the OS, so it can't be the same file in most cases. |
Graham 9-Dec-2006 [915x3] | Linux users .. please try this for me do http://www.compkarori.com/reb/psd2draw.r |
Do you see any text ? Or, do you have to install some postscript fonts? | |
And isn't ghostscript a standard install for most linux distros ? | |
Kaj 10-Dec-2006 [918] | Probably |
Graham 10-Dec-2006 [919x2] | I wonder then if it's the fonts I'm using. |
maybe I try installing a windows fonts package. | |
Kaj 10-Dec-2006 [921x2] | The Ghostscript fonts may not be available to X11, and thus probably not to View |
There's an extra package for that in Debian/Ubuntu | |
Graham 10-Dec-2006 [923] | I'm on Fedora (vmware) |
Kaj 10-Dec-2006 [924x2] | gsfonts-x11 |
The fonts also go under different names | |
Graham 10-Dec-2006 [926] | maybe I look at what fonts are available and try those in my script. |
Kaj 10-Dec-2006 [927x4] | Right, we can't make Syllable dependent on REBOL. Indeed we're using Orca for fundamental stuff |
I gave Syllable to Carl a year ago in Milan. He was toying with the thought of trying to compile REBOL, but he probably didn't | |
R3 will definitely be a better base to port, and I will try it when the open-source layer is released | |
Syllable uses ELF executable format like modern Linux, so there's a chance we would be able to use the R3 library for x86 Linux | |
Graham 10-Dec-2006 [931x3] | that would be good. |
What resolution does the Syllable livePC run at? | |
screen rez ... | |
Kaj 10-Dec-2006 [934] | Syllable's default resolution is always 640x480, unless you set it otherwise. Why? |
Graham 10-Dec-2006 [935x3] | bit retro ! |
I would want 1024x768 at least. | |
The Suse Live PC I tried won't go above 640x480 as well I think. | |
Kaj 10-Dec-2006 [938x2] | You can simply set that |
Setting the resolution has traditionally been a problem on Linux, so that could be the case with that SUSE | |
Graham 10-Dec-2006 [940] | have you tried the LivePC ? |
Kaj 10-Dec-2006 [941x2] | No, but it should function the same as standard VMWare images, and I've never heard of resolution problems with those |
Have you tried that Syllable LivePC? Does it have a problem? | |
Graham 10-Dec-2006 [943x2] | No, I downloaded an ISO image before and burnt that. |
but I have run out of quota till the end of the month so can't download anything :( | |
Kaj 10-Dec-2006 [945] | Probably better. I don't know if the LivePC has been updated to 0.6.2 |
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