World: r3wp

You should try and push Carl to port Rebol.

You have quotas on your side of the world? ;-)

Yeah ...

one month I went $300 over quota :(

Carl is not easily pushed. I'll port the open-source layer when it's 
there, and if it doesn't work I'll bug him again

Do you have an idea of how hard it would be to do a port ?

No quotas here, just vague threats that there might be one

I've ported many languages to Syllable, and it's usually not hard. 
There are exceptions, and it might be more difficult to get all features 
to work, but REBOL is very portable, so it should be easy

On the other hand, not having the full source could cause problems 
that only RT could solve

LivePC is 0.6.2

Also, I see a vmware image

Oh, cool, they're keeping close tags on it, then

Pity they don't advise the download size on the download page with 
checksums

It shouldn't be much bigger than our standard install CD. I seem 
to remember something around 70 MB

Ok.

Is Firefox going to be ported .. or are you stuck with Abrowse ?

But if you have our 0.6.2 ISO, why not install that in VMWare?

Must have been 6 months or more ago that I downloaded the ISO.

maybe a year.

0.6.2 is a lot better :-)

Abrowse?

Is that the Amiga browser?

from Canada

We've attempted Firefox, but it's hard. Bloated stuff, as so many 
things. It will happen someday, but not soon. Arno is trying to port 
the Safari engine now

No, it's our AtheOS-Browse :-)

OK.

It's based on KHTML, so it's quite good. Years before Apple did that

are you porting to PDAs or phones ?

Not at the moment

I see the boot code is written in assembler

Should have used Forth :)

Made it more portable.

Where is that? If there is assembler there, it's just very little

Or do you mean GrUB?

Syllable requires a processor that supports i586 (Pentium) instructions, 
this is a leftover from AtheOS; Kurt wrote some lines of i586 instructions 
in assembler. An installation uses up several hundred megabytes of 
hard disc. About 20 to 24mb of ram is needed to boot. So, a Pentium 
60 with 24mb of ram and a small hard disc should be the minimum currently 
able to 'run' Syllable. A Pentium 166MMX with 64mb of ram and a 1gb 
hard drive can run Syllable quite comfortably. PPP is not supported 
yet, so you can only connect to the internet via a local network 
at the present time.

Syllable is currently hardcoded to require an i586 x86 processor 
or compatible (it will [to quote Kurt] "crash and burn on a 486"). 
The current developers are

So, presumably doesn't take advantage of multicore processors

I don't know if that's the boot code

bootstrapping?

Why not? We just fixed SMP, so we run with multicore now

Ahh ... cool

If it's only 70Mb I can manage that.

The real boot code is GrUB. There must be assembler in there, but 
it's out of our hands. We have a bit of assembler code that are probably 
small pieces of our part of the boot process, and maybe things like 
the scheduler

146Mb vmware image

The one from cilinder.be? That's a much more complete image, with 
the developer tools

Yes ..

Downloading it now.

That one has Orca running?

Yes, included in 0.6.1, and a newer version in 0.6.2

So, Orca replaces Perl for installation scripting?