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[AGG] to discus new Rebol/View with AGG
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DideC 10-Jun-2005 [50] | Yes he has. The Tiger head was "stolen" from an SVG source ;-) |
Pekr 10-Jun-2005 [51] | Cyphre, or others - I am curious. I just read latest blogs about Mozilla technology - they will switch rendering to Cairo open source library. It will handle svg as well as the rest of rendering too. IIRC Cairo was already mentioned here. I wonder how AGG compares? |
Ammon 10-Jun-2005 [52] | All I know is that the classic SVG Tiger demo ( Viewtop/Tests/View/Tiger.r ) looks better than any others that I've seen... |
Pekr 10-Jun-2005 [53x2] | Ammon - was it you who once talked about Shake compositing etc.? Some of you guys once suggested kind of "caching" for already-rendered stuff (nodes) etc. I wonder what Carl has in ming with min-face, but maybe we could be even faster :-) |
Cairo seems to be ahead a bit though - buffered imaging, hw usage. I do remember that Carl wanted to introduce kind of view plug-ins, which should allow faster rendering/blitting? | |
Ammon 10-Jun-2005 [55] | Close. It was actually Maxim who talked about Shake. He's done some work with it which involves REBOL... |
Pekr 10-Jun-2005 [56x2] | Hmm, Maxim - haven't seen him for ages her. Is he still around? :-) |
her=here | |
Ammon 10-Jun-2005 [58] | Maxim is around. I've been communicating with him mostly via email as he hasn't actually logged into AltME in a while... |
Cyphre 13-Jun-2005 [59x2] | I have SVG viewer called SVG-LITE in works... |
It is in early state of developement..the source has actually about 7,5Kb and it is not optimized. | |
DideC 13-Jun-2005 [61x13] | If my tries are good, ARC command use "time" direction !! I would better think in "Trigonometric" one, no ? |
I have 2 "not so good" behaviour with 'ARC command. 1) Drawing an Arc with big line-width at rectangular angle (0, 90, 180, 270) does not give an edge as I would. Try : | |
n: 1 plot: [ pen black line-width n arc 190x130 60x60 90 270 arc 390x130 60x60 180 270 arc 190x330 60x60 0 270 arc 390x330 60x60 270 270 ] view center-face layout [ bx: box 580x450 effect [draw plot] sl: slider 580x20 [ n: 1 + (sl/data * 70) show bx ] ] | |
...move the slider and see. | |
2) closed ARC does not work if angle goes up to 0° angle. Try : | |
n: 0 plot: [ pen black line-width 2 arc 190x130 60x60 90 n closed arc 390x130 60x60 180 n closed arc 190x330 60x60 0 n closed arc 390x330 60x60 270 n closed ] view center-face layout [ bx: box 580x450 effect [draw plot] sl: slider 580x20 [ n: 1 + (sl/data * 360) show bx ] ] | |
...move the slider slowly and see. | |
This one looks like a bug :-( | |
Easier to see with filled arcs : | |
n: 0 plot: [ fill-pen red pen black line-width 5 arc 190x130 60x60 90 n closed arc 390x130 60x60 180 n closed arc 190x330 60x60 0 n closed arc 390x330 60x60 270 n closed ] view center-face layout [ bx: box 580x450 effect [draw plot] sl: slider 580x20 [ n: 1 + (sl/data * 360) show bx ] ] | |
There is a missing STOP-ANGLE: STOP-ANGLE // 360 or something like that in the calculation. | |
Sorry to feed. A more complete test script : | |
rebol [title: "ARC's Draw command test"] begin: angle: 0 lines?: 'closed plot: [ fill-pen red pen black line-width 5 arc 100x100 90x90 begin angle lines? ] view center-face layout [ bx: box 200x200 effect [draw plot] across style vt vtext 60 right vt "Start:" scroller 392x16 [angle: face/data * 360 show bx] return vt "Angle:" scroller 392x16 [begin: face/data * 360 show bx] return vt "Type :" toggle "open it" "closed it" [either face/data [lines?: none] [lines?: 'closed] show bx] ] | |
[unknown: 5] 13-Jun-2005 [74] | Pretty cool DideC |
Cyphre 14-Jun-2005 [75] | DideC: thanks for the report, please add it to the RAMBO. This will be fixed in 1.3.1 |
DideC 14-Jun-2005 [76x2] | Ok, done. |
What do you thinka of the first test (this group, yesterday 20:25) ? | |
Cyphre 15-Jun-2005 [78] | It looks like some rounding or stroke generator problem. I need to investigate more soon. |
DideC 15-Jun-2005 [79] | ok |
shadwolf 15-Jun-2005 [80] | nice soft didec ;) |
shadwolf 16-Jun-2005 [81] | I see a little problem into the starwars scrolling text effect make by Cyphre when playing it to 1.3 the text is oriented to the left |
eFishAnt 20-Jun-2005 [82] | DideC, excellent graphics design. |
shadwolf 20-Jun-2005 [83x2] | DideC Why don't you take 5 minutes of your precious time to make us a treview and a dir-resquestor for RebGUI ? |
you can even make the base then I will enhance them if you prefer ... | |
yeksoon 20-Jun-2005 [85x2] | very smooth drawings |
and the best thing is... so short.... I can read it, memorise it and 'spit' it onto my vi without using copys | |
DideC 20-Jun-2005 [87] | Sorry, but what are you speaking about guys (Shadwolf, Steeve) ? Not the small scripts above (except Yeksoon, I suppose) ? |
BrianW 20-Jun-2005 [88] | DideC, those are great. Really easy to warm up to AGG with those :-) |
DideC 20-Jun-2005 [89] | thanks |
shadwolf 20-Jun-2005 [90x2] | no I'm talking about treeview and dir-requestor for rebgui based on your work on the request-dir.r as you yet have a good experience and some inovent ideas over this topic I think it's natural to push you to contribute but I you doesn't want to I will take some weeks soon to do it but it could be more painfull for me and less inventiv that the work you can do DideC |
no I'm talking about treeview and dir-requestor for rebgui based on your work on the request-dir.r as you yet have a good experience and some inovent ideas over this topic I think it's natural to push you to contribute but I you doesn't want to push you. I will take some weeks soon to do it but it could be more painfull for me and less inventiv that the work you can do DideC | |
Anton 21-Jun-2005 [92] | shadwolf, do not avoid the pain. |
Ashley 21-Jun-2005 [93] | SVG Demo: http://www.dobeash.com/files/svg-demo.zip |
shadwolf 21-Jun-2005 [94] | a svg renderer in only 5k .... What a great job !!! |
Pekr 21-Jun-2005 [95x2] | is that "full" SVG renderer/parser? |
but overall it is good - feels realtime. I wonder if SVG has future? Is that new replacement for technology as DHTML, which never became widely used? There is plenty of W3C XML stuff, I wonder if they keep that under control or what the future of the web holds .... | |
shadwolf 21-Jun-2005 [97x3] | yes |
I have connection problems :(((( | |
some times Altme Hang and I can't send or receive message but altme stay connected ... | |
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