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eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [101] | I call my internet keyboard "The Surf-BoardTM" ... ;-) |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [102x2] | In fact - I never found use for additional keyboard buttons as handling sound, player, custom apps launch, sleep and I don't touch mouse if I don't have to .... there must be something strange with me ... |
I even have special keys for cut, copy and paste, but I am used to old way ctrl + particular-button .... | |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [104] | ah, I have tried some other keyboads, like with the special buttons, the wireless part of WebTV was nice...but for sure we need to have REBOL embedded in a wireless keyboard...that would be nice. |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [105] | just found out that Logitech does have a 'diNovo' but the retail price is on the high side http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=1,CONTENTID=7321 |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [106] | The problem with special keys and its usage is, that I don't want to use such special keys - I do use many PCs actively, notebooks, and once some PC does not have such keys, it slows my process of work ... |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [107] | yeah, Logitech doesn't get it either...I have read lots of laptop keyboard patents...;-) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [108x4] | The problem with many keyboards is that they are not risc-- they need to focus on the most frequent actions . |
this text is being influenced by speech recognition | |
it is a lot faster to input text this way when it comes to things like instant messaging | |
especially when using a tablet that has no keyboard -- that can be a big problem | |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [112] | IBM has some patents, too... |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [113] | the raisin on a one to get rid of the number pad is that it makes the keyboard off center |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [114] | What do you prefer on notebook - touchpad as a mouse, or that IBM's - how to call it - stick between the keys? |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [115] | IBM thinkpad's keyboard is pretty good... |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [116] | a Korean contact of mine has tried to penetrate the US market with Tablets for nearly 8 years...and it is still not a winner. |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [117] | this throws your whole body off center for hours at a time-- this becomes eight more serious problem if you put the keyboard in your lap |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [118] | eight a speech thing? |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [119x3] | another problem with modern keyboards is that they are built for the lowest cost not for the best ergonomics |
keyboards are sold at retail prices of between ten to $30.00 | |
that means their manufacturing cost is between five and $15.00 -- so very few companies are motivated to innovate on keyboard design | |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [122] | you can get it 10-30 in Singapore dollars as well (US$1 = SGD$1.63; approx) |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [123] | I think the Tablet needs 95% graphics operated computing before it becomes a market winner. |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [124] | well, even arrows, delete, insert etc. makes it off-center ... but - is that really so big problem? I never thought about it that way ... the only thing I need now is wireless keyboard to have it with me on ma sofa :-) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [125] | by a normally use a $60.00 keyboard that has an ergonomic split and is also wireless but the company , logitek has stopped making it -- unfortunately |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [126] | some of the ergonomics have not yet been worked out by them either...;-) |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [127] | Pekr, you can take a look at IBM Thinkpad's keyboard. They have manage to make it balanced with the arrow keys and stuffs. A lot of the other laptops manufacturers don't get it, even Apple. (and I use Macs as well) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [128] | the reason it is a big problem is that when you're sitting in the same place for ten or more hours in a little thing in every little thing will eventually effect you |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [129] | effect .... Speech? or are you typing? |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [130] | Microsoft speech recognition really sucks all |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [131] | yeksoon - but I hate it ... switching between 3 notebooks each of different brands every of them has arrows, delete, insert etc. keys at different positions .... |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [132] | yes I am speaking |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [133] | speech is improving..it seems |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [134] | all all all Microsoft likes adding a lot of other words all all all |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [135] | affect is the right word |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [136] | I have been using speech recognition off and on as a test case or more than twenty years all |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [137x2] | Carl, maybe you can create custom speach dialect ... even MS words let's you to write your own corrections ... so just link some your speach habits and tell app what should it say instead :-) |
MS Word | |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [139x2] | unfortunately all it is not a lot better today than all it was all all all all twenty years ago |
do you really think I'll use Microsoft word all all | |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [141] | so can you speak a REBOL script into here? Oops forgot, not Messenger where do [ view/new layout [ box ] ] can be done... |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [142] | no, that was just example ... dunno if speach sw would allow anything like that ... so you would teach it to some of your speach patterns and tell it how to interpret it .... |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [143x2] | let me try all |
first let me turn off this bill because it is messing up the speech recognition I think that is where the word call is coming from all all | |
yeksoon 22-Jan-2005 [145] | doesn't John Ousterhout, Tcl creator, use speech stuffs as well.. bcos of RSI problems |
eFishAnt 22-Jan-2005 [146] | we are afraid Carl is imitating Max Headroom...;-) |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [147] | OK but see if this is better -- I don't know what insane programmer decided that you should ring the bell whenever a word is recognized by the speech recognition software -- that is about as stupid as it gets |
Pekr 22-Jan-2005 [148] | then we will have to do it ourselves - speach recognition in REBOL :-) But we would either need library, or fast VM/port for fast performance ... otoh it surely is not easy to do such kind of stuff ... |
Sunanda 22-Jan-2005 [149] | Pekr...keys in diferrent positions. I have that problem of swiching machines too. In the ideal world, I'd have one personal keyboard and use it on any machine. Without having to do all the unplugging. driver upgrading, and rebooting first....eFishAnt can you design the ultimate portable keyboard for me!? |
Carl 22-Jan-2005 [150] | that is where that word all was coming from -- two bill gates a ding sound has the same sound as the word all |
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