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DideC
27-Apr-2006
[1163]
Common mistake is case of the filename and the way it's write in 
the html.

It happens ofen when you test on Windows and the web server is under 
*nix.
Anton
27-Apr-2006
[1164]
Yes, upper and lowercase.
Chris
17-May-2006
[1165]
Updated: my 'Anywhere' style sheet for Make-Doc Anywhere.  Please 
contact me if you have any problems/weirdness with older pages...
Pekr
17-May-2006
[1166]
it was already nice - just the width was too think to my liking, 
making even short document long ... (not bad thing when you want 
to show your boss :-)
Chris
17-May-2006
[1167]
Thanks :o)  It's merely a revision, mainly fixing paragraph/heading 
margins.
Louis
20-May-2006
[1168x2]
Thanks, you guys. I was using the wrong case.

Do the search engines index the content of pdf pages?
Anton
20-May-2006
[1170]
Google parses pdf files.
Louis
20-May-2006
[1171x2]
That is good. Thans, Anton.

Thans = thanks
Anton
21-May-2006
[1173]
Anyone got a direct apple.com link to download Quicktime 7 Firefox 
plugin on WinXP ?
Anton
22-May-2006
[1174]
I got it.  I didn't want to give them my email address.
Frank
22-May-2006
[1175]
You can use www.jetable.org
Henrik
22-May-2006
[1176]
anton, AFAIK you don't have to? oh well :-)
Anton
22-May-2006
[1177]
Yes, I shouldn't have assumed it was needed, but I gave them a Yahoo 
email anyway, so no drama.
Henrik
22-May-2006
[1178]
I'm sure they'll spend the rest of the day in agony that they didn't 
get your real email address. :-)
DideC
28-May-2006
[1179]
Question to HTML / CSS gurus
I have to display Rebol code in an HTML page. I use <PRE> tags.

Problem : whatever I use (Cell, Div, Pre) the wrap only occurs based 
on the window width, not the one I specified in the tag.

So, how to force PRE text to wrap in a specific width ?
Geomol
28-May-2006
[1180x3]
Can it be solved using newlines? Like:

<html>
	<head>
		<title>test</title>
	</head>
	<body>
		<pre>line 1
line 2
line 3
		</pre>
	</body>
</html>

I don't think, you can force a wrap at a certain place. It's in the 
nature of HTML, as it's not wysiwyg.

From http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html32

A few user agents support the WIDTH attribute. It provides a hint 
to the user agent of the required width in characters. The user agent 
can use this to select an appropriate font size or to indent the 
content appropriately.

It's not the width of the line.
DideC
28-May-2006
[1183]
I have tried Width, but it only shrinks the box, not the text inside 
(almoast on FF).
Odd OMO.
Sunanda
28-May-2006
[1184]
<pre> literally means "as written" -- if there are no line breaks 
in the text, then there will be none on the page.
***

Some lines in <pre> tags can be accidently enormously long, and need 
to be wrapped by hand.

That's one reason REBOL.org offers you a user-setting for the point 
at which you want Mailing list messages to be forcibly wrapped:
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/cpt-update-profile.r

(See Appearance and settings / Point at which Mailing List Archive 
messages will start to wrap.)
[unknown: 9]
28-May-2006
[1185x2]
Dideir, yeah we ran into this recently in allowing people to escape 
code inside our Wiki.  We allow Rebol, HTML, etc.

At first it seems counter intuitive. But this is the way of HTML.


Aside from the straight forward concept as Sunanda mentioned, if 
you are willing to process the code a little you can count the characters 
of the longest line, and scale the text to match the final output. 
 A couple of points dropped on a font stil are readable, and many 
sentences still fit.


Another is to encode the whole thing, in other words convert all 
the "<" for example to escape sequences.  Now HTML will wrap everything 
automatically.

Doh..."Didier" (I was tricked by looking at DideC).
Sunanda
28-May-2006
[1187]
Your other alternative is to use the CSS  overflow propery
eg 
pre {overflow: auto} or overflow:scroll
The problem there is the inconsistency between browsers......

Good ones will add scroll bars only when needed. Common and bad ones 
will add horizontal and vertical scroll bars at all times for every 
pre box.  It's ugly.
BrianH
28-May-2006
[1188]
You can specify overflow-y and overflow-x separately if you prefer.
Chris
29-May-2006
[1189]
Bad ones = Internet Explorer.  Even version 7 they haven't really 
figured out how most people use overflow: auto.  Oneliners become 
unreadable.
[unknown: 9]
29-May-2006
[1190]
Yup.
DideC
29-May-2006
[1191x2]
I have tried "Overflow: auto" (I just had a look to makedoc anywhere 
result to see how it handles that),
but fall on the I.E. inconsistency.

So in conclusion, there is nothing simply usable in the browser(s), 
I have to cut the line "myself".
F..k !!
[unknown: 9]
29-May-2006
[1193x2]
Yup.

In Qtask we autocut strings loner than X spaces so that webpages 
don't  get screwed up.  Slashdot does the same/
Alek_K
29-May-2006
[1195]
Well - there is property in CSS - 3 - but add this in style
pre {
 white-space: pre-wrap;       /* css-3 */
 white-space: -moz-pre-wrap;  /* Mozilla, since 1999 */
 white-space: -pre-wrap;      /* Opera 4-6 */
 white-space: -o-pre-wrap;    /* Opera 7 */
 word-wrap: break-word;       /* Internet Explorer 5.5+ */
}
http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/pre-wrap-css3-mozilla-opera-ie.html
Allen
29-May-2006
[1196]
Another option is to show in a textarea and set the rows & columns
DideC
29-May-2006
[1197]
Alek : I will try that this evening.
Pekr
19-Jul-2006
[1198x2]
one question re CSS. I have small template, where I put two images 
one under the other. You can look at http://www.xidys.com/hanka. 
But I will need to cut some images, and that fact destroys aspect 
ratio for me :-) I would like to ask, if, in CSS, I can define image 
the way that it would not be scaled? My definition looks like:

.photo img {
    width: 614px;
    height: 460px;
}

and in html:


<div class="photo"><!--[obrazek 1]--><img src="obrazky/IMG_1361.JPG"/></div>

I would like to have something like a face, where you insert image 
top-left corner, but it uses aspect effect, that once it reaches 
particular width or height, it is drawn to the face, but the other 
axis stays as-is, so the aspect radio is kept correct. With above 
definition, it simply scales image to defined width-height, and I 
have to properly cut image in xnview, counting pixel ratios .... 
and that is very boring job :-)
Anton
19-Jul-2006
[1200]
http://rjohara.net/server/css-figures-captions/
Pekr
19-Jul-2006
[1201]
how do I align text under the image? I mean - image itself has some 
white-border in it. The text looks far too left. I would like to 
align block of text following the image to the center, but not align 
center text itself .....
Anton
19-Jul-2006
[1202x2]
The third image down has centred text on Firefox.

(on my Firefox anyway)
Alek_K
20-Jul-2006
[1204]
Pekr: 

1. I don't know if i understand correctly, but if You give only one 
size (f.e. width), image will be scaled with aspect ratio to that 
size. You can set .photo size too of course (so it will not ruin 
Your layout)

2. Text under the image - I can't identify the problem. Can You give 
a link to it?
Pekr
20-Jul-2006
[1205x4]
Alek - thanks, I am already done with the problem. As for 2, I just 
wanted to center text under the image. But whole text block, not 
centered text itself - http://www.xidys.com/hanka/T-XI.html

the text should be aligned to both sides, not centered. It is whole 
text block, which should be centered. http://www.xidys.com/hanka/F-VI-F-VII.html
Can't express myself :-)

|                                                                
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           |__________________________________|

                    |some text here some text here  so|
                    |me text here some text here some|

:-)
Gabriele
22-Jul-2006
[1209]
Petr: give the text container a fixed width, then set both left and 
right margins to "auto". this should center it.
Alek_K
24-Jul-2006
[1210]
Maybe You thinks about justify? Add to "text" style:
text-align: justify;
Josh
28-Jul-2006
[1211]
Not that it's incredibly important, but some the links on http://www.rebolforces.com/archive/index.html
are quite broken
Allen
30-Jul-2006
[1212]
yes. sadly lost a lot stuff when the previous host shut down in the 
same week as my hard-drive died. I had to retrieve what I could via 
the wayback machine, and too few CD backups.
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