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Graham 19-Sep-2006 [1227x3] | should do most of what you want ... |
4 years old though. | |
No date checking on files .. only size checking. | |
Louis 19-Sep-2006 [1230x2] | Thanks, Henrik and Graham. |
Graham, if a file upload fails somewhere in the middle, will you script restart the upload where the failure occurred so that the first half of the file does not have to be downloaded again? | |
Graham 19-Sep-2006 [1232x5] | No, it does not do resume. |
it is completely automatic... no intervention required. | |
otherwise, if you want an interactive ftp program which asks you .. do you want to resume or whatever, you need another program. | |
this once force uploads everything. | |
I used it to upload hundreds of files that other ftp agents croaked on. | |
Anton 19-Sep-2006 [1237] | I found various FTP servers report dates differently. Also the dates may not include the timezone, so you would have to assume it is in the timezone of the server and get the timezone from the server another way. Because there are so many variants of FTP servers you would have to do a lot of research to make this reliable, and then you wouldn't be 100% sure it would not fall over with some obscure FTP server. |
Sunanda 20-Sep-2006 [1238] | Louis -- a couple of pointers about uploading files to a server using a slow FTP connection: (I do it myself with REBOL.org -- most of the development takes place on my machine and is uploaded to RO via a 56K modem, so this is based on real experience.) -- If you are uploading a large live file, that file will be available and/or "broken" during the course of the upload. Best to upload with a temporary file name, and then rename when uploaded. -- That won't work with CGI scripts under Apache/UNIX as the rename won't leave them with the right file permissions to execute. But it will work for all other files, including scripts that are DOne by your CGIs. -- We have a checksums file that the uploader uses. Before uploading a file, it checks the file's upload checksum. That way, we only ever upload new or changed files. |
Louis 20-Sep-2006 [1239] | Thanks, Graham, for the script. And thanks Henrik, Anton, and Sunanda for the pointers. I'm hoping to be able to start working on this within the next few days. |
Anton 20-Sep-2006 [1240] | No problem. Hope it goes well. |
Oldes 9-Oct-2006 [1241] | This is very good CSS tutorial, which someone may find useful - http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/box_lesson/boxes.html And this is another good place from which I found the link above - http://www.mandarindesign.com/ |
Alek_K 10-Oct-2006 [1242] | Some good resources about design/css/ia/etc. on last ALA: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/alaprimer2 |
james_nak 10-Oct-2006 [1243] | My favorite CSS examples http://www.csszengarden.comNot so much about "how" to do it but "what" can be accomplished. I find it pretty amazing. |
Janeks 23-Oct-2006 [1244x2] | I had faced with problem for file uploads: I had file upload script (upload.r posted somwhere in rebol lists/worlds) on my web servers, that works well on KF web server. But on MS IIS script hangs and I am getting timeout error from server. If it is needed I can post upload.r here! |
Actualy problem is in function read-post data - script hangs on read-io. Why it is problem for MS IIS and how to solve them? read-post-data: func [ {Reads the HTTP entity body} /safe "Disables evaluation of content-length header." /local len data tmp ] [ len: load any [ all [safe "65536"] system/options/cgi/content-length "0" ] data: make string! len tmp: make string! len while [ 0 < read-io system/ports/input tmp len ] [ insert tail data tmp clear tmp ] data ] | |
Pekr 6-Nov-2006 [1246x2] | is there any solution available for Rebol, which would handle sessions? |
My understanding is, that sessions=cookies (or hidden form field, url, or combination of those ones) plus storage/invocation mechanism | |
Rebolek 6-Nov-2006 [1248] | there is cookies manager from Oldes somewhere, have a look around AltME for URL (he still ignores rebol.org, such a bad bad bad boy ;). |
Pekr 6-Nov-2006 [1249] | cookies manager? will try to look for one :-) |
Rebolek 6-Nov-2006 [1250] | yes, it's patched HTTP scheme. Does all session management automaticaly IIRC. |
Pekr 6-Nov-2006 [1251x3] | hmm, it might not be ideal for CGI, to do 20KB script with each invocation ... |
I found it via google ... | |
well, working with cookies is not all that difficult, is it? My friend just asked me - why rebol does not handle sessions, if any other language does. I told him to write it himself, but he probably does not know how. Isn't session just about getting a cookie, looking into your storage space for the cookie identifier (session identifier), loading the session data, using them, and storing them once again? | |
Rebolek 6-Nov-2006 [1254] | Pekr: his Cookies Daemon is client-side, not server-side, I probably understood you bad. |
Pekr 6-Nov-2006 [1255] | ah, yes, I wanted server-side one ... |
Gabriele 6-Nov-2006 [1256] | Yes, session handling is not hard. REBOL does not have it built in because it was not designed to be mainly a CGI language; so you need to add that yourself. |
Pekr 7-Nov-2006 [1257] | how should I design my function, if I would like to have e.g. session: copy [] block, and later would like to append whatever rebol value into it? e.g. variable names using in script, objects, etc? when I do append session var, it stores its value .... what would be the best aproach? |
Gabriele 7-Nov-2006 [1258x3] | the simplest way, which however needs write permissions to the filesystem, is to have a unique session id assigned to users; this id could be basically a file name (and you need to check for its sanity then); then you read from the file at the beginning, and save to it at the end. |
eg. you could have session: load session-file at the beginning; then your script does whatever with session; then you save session-file session at the end. | |
temple.cgi does basically this. | |
Pekr 7-Nov-2006 [1261x2] | yes, I know, as for files. My strategy is very simple - use cookies (I wonder if there is script being able to handle multiple cookies btw), then "start a session" = generate unique ID, store it in \sessions\ dir .... |
I just thought about how to store and later load some rebol values, add new values to them ..... | |
Gabriele 7-Nov-2006 [1263] | temple.cgi uses cookies. there is no problem in handling multiple cookies on the server side, and the bug with multiple cookies on the client side has long been fixed. |
Pekr 7-Nov-2006 [1264] | maybe a pair of word name (literal) plus value ... and then some little accessor function |
Gabriele 7-Nov-2006 [1265x2] | i just let the session variable be whatever the user wants. it could be an object!, or a block!, or whatever. |
in some cases you may just need a logic! value, in others a block with words and values may be best... | |
Pekr 7-Nov-2006 [1267x2] | multiple cookies? how are they separated in http header? there are various scripts around, not sure all of them handle multiple cookies ... I will investigate ... |
ok, so you know you want to save variables: name last-name user-object some-block-here .... how do you save them, and later invoke them? | |
Gabriele 7-Nov-2006 [1269x3] | you just need to parse system/options/cgi/other-headers iirc. see temple.cgi, it shouldn't have problems with that. (but if you have session handling you only need one cookie in the end). |
allowing session handling to directly set variables is a bad design, see the plagues that php had for this. | |
just have those values inside session. that could be session/last-name for eg | |
Pekr 7-Nov-2006 [1272] | hmm, so construct an object, righ? |
Gabriele 7-Nov-2006 [1273x2] | or a block [last-name "Santilli"] |
depending on your needs :) | |
Pekr 7-Nov-2006 [1275x2] | I was really tired by Bobik, who leaving rebol just slanders it, without proper deep knowledge of what session actually is. He reported to various other friends, that Rebol is terrible, because it is the only language not actually supporting sessions. Yesterday I looked into what "sesssions" mean in php terms, and I have to laugh - for me it is matter of few hours coding at max, to get it working ... |
but that is overally problem of Rebol - while with other languages, e.g. python, he is willing to import particular library, with rebol he just states, that such a thing should be inside ... | |
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