World: r3wp

would be nice if you can take control and update on rebol.org to 
prevent others headaces 8)

I'll get it updated shortly.

Thank you!

I'm checking with Douglas Crockford about what the real rules are. 
None of the examples have the solidus escaped, even though that's 
what the grammar says to do. Once I have answers from him, I'll post 
an update.

I've noticed some websites like Amazon don't seem to have a log out 
/ sign out button any more. What's happening ? How are they doing 
the logout ?

maybe it is just hidden, using cookies? If you have cookie, you are 
auto-logged-on, and the session will end when you close your browser 
session?

reichart, "fighting" is not the right word... i'd say, it's just 
me continuously whining about thing not being this way :)

Will, Here is the answer from Douglas Crockford:


It is optional. It is allowed for the case where JSON is embedded 
in HTML 
SCRIPT, where 
</" is not allowed, but "<\/" is.

There are no comments in JSON."


So, on the parsing side, we should look for it, but on the generation 
side, \/ is really ugly if we generate it everywhere. If we don't 
generate it, you're stuck if you need it, so we probably need a refinement. 
Either that, or just accept the ugliness.


I'm not sure if I want to remove comment support either. Just a gut 
feeling they may come back.

Gab, : )

Gregg, thanks for digging this deeply, I would suggest just adding 
it, no refinements, at the end it is a transport not meant to be 
human readable (unicode escapes aren't more readable ;) so no need 
to think if refinement is needed case by case.

It just makes paths look so horrible. :-) 

Does anyone else here care?

I perfer  my rebol not look like regex

Web apps are becoming sophisticated. We are about to introduce WCMS 
in our company, probably basing it upon SharePoint Server. But I 
can see that also many open-source systems exist, as Joomla, Drupal, 
Xoop, WordPress, etc., and here's how you can customise your google 
site - http://www.google.com/ig- you simply choose portlets and 
you can shift thema around ....

LOL...yeah...

Sorry for the delay in getting the JSON script updated Will. There 
were some other changes in the spec that I decided to clean up, so 
it passes all their tests, except one. Test #18 checks the depth 
limit on arrays. I guess they can't be deeper than 19 levels. Our 
REBOL version doesn't enforce that.

It's up on REBOL.org, and I sent it to Doug Crockford as well.

Thank you Gregg 8)

I got a note from Doug that he's confident comments won't be coming 
back, so I'm going to do another update for that.

Info from danish news on tv:
Women use 29 hours on the internet per week.
Men use 27 hours on the internet per week.

People older than 61 years use more time on the internet than people 
between 20 and 60 years old.

Re age differences; Typing speed?  More detail oriented than the 
flash me this tlash me that generation?  Umm, retired with more free 
time?  But an interesting stat.    I wonder if they thought about 
adding a developer category ... 29 hours a day.  Reichart alone would 
probably skew the statistics.  :)

Is evolution a religion http://www.icr.org/article/455/

sorry wrong group

Answer: No. Now you don't have tgo bring it up in the other group.

What do I need to read from a given URL (assume web-page) to find 
out when the page was modified? Is there a way?

Geomol, I wonder if it has something to do with the skill with using 
the computer, how fast something can be looked up, et.c

>> page: open http://rebol.com
>> page/locals/headers/Last-Modified
== "Wed, 30/Apr/2008/01:08:00/+GMT"

>> load skip page/locals/headers/Last-Modified 5
== 30-Apr-2008/1:08

Doc, thanks. Never heard about this...

There's a mezz wrapper for that :

>> modified? http://rebol.com
connecting to: rebol.com
== 30-Apr-2008/1:08

Cool! I could have assumed this...

Does anybody know how I can access the currently displayed URL in 
a web-browser from an external application? I just want to get back 
the URL of the "current" shown web-page in an active window.

That might be hard as it would depend on the browser.

Yes, I know. So any help/idea will help.

is it Windows only?

At the moment yes.

You might have to do some window spying to see what classes things 
are, then enum top windows to find the browser, then enum its child 
windows and do getwindowtext.

Hmm... sounds like a lot of work but OK I will see how I come along.

Would be nice to do something like this flash app with REBOL http://www.livefaceonweb.com/

Robert, are the pages you are accessing static, dynamic or a combination 
of the two?

I don't think the method Doc provided will work for dynamically generated 
pages.  For dynamic content  you will need to use something like
	checksum http://www.rebol.com

However, you will need to maintain a list of the last time a page 
was checked.

Robert, on os x you can do it easly with AppleScript (use ScriptEditor):

tell application "Safari"
	set theURL to URL of the document of front window
end tell

here is a more complete example that will save url of all browser 
windows to a file:
http://daringfireball.net/2003/02/save_and_restore_safari_urls

Brock,  yes dynamic content is hard to track and it depends if it 
makes sense to track.

Will, cool. Thanks. Can such a script be started from Rebol?

Robert: You can run any AppleScript from the command line:
	osacript script_name

this is part of a script I use to monitor and restart  my vpn and 
ssh tunnel :
connect: does [
		call rejoin [{osascript -e "tell application \"System Events\"
			tell current location of network preferences
				set vpn to current configuration of service \"VPN\"
				if not connected of vpn then
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						stop (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
					connect vpn
					delay 6
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						start (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				else
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						stop (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				   disconnect vpn
					delay 6
					connect vpn
					delay 6
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						start (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				end if
			end tell
		end tell"}]
	]

>> stringURL: copy ""
== ""
>> call/output "osascript getURL.as" 
stringURL
== 0
>> theURL: to url! stringURL
== http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A
>> 
theURL
== http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A

>> stringURL: copy ""

== ""

>> call/output "osascript getURL.as" stringURL

== 0

>> theURL: to url! stringURL

 ==http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A
>> 
 theURL

==http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A