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Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[148]
then we will have to do it ourselves - speach recognition in REBOL 
:-) But we would either need library, or fast VM/port for fast performance 
... otoh it surely is not easy to do such kind of stuff ...
Sunanda
22-Jan-2005
[149]
Pekr...keys in diferrent positions.  I have that problem of swiching 
machines too.

In the ideal world, I'd have one personal keyboard and use it on 
any machine. Without having to do all the unplugging. driver upgrading, 
and rebooting first....eFishAnt can you design the ultimate portable 
keyboard for me!?
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[150]
that is where that word all was coming from -- two bill gates a ding 
sound has the same sound as the word all
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[151]
wow...that sounds like a GREAT QUOTE for a WEB PAGE ... LOL
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[152]
if that is as good as speech recognition gets I think I could do 
better in probably about a month of programming -- I have been thinking 
about this problem for more than two decades -- while at apple computer 
by a push to get speech recognition to be part of every Macintosh 
-- but was unsuccessful
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[153]
Sunanda - there is already virtual keyboard available, but you need 
clean desk for it ... dunno if it is usable at all, but fits nicely 
PDAs etc. - it is projection technology ...
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[154]
I have seen that to -- an interesting way to input characters
Sunanda
22-Jan-2005
[155]
Seen it too, thanks, Petr......So won't work easily on a train or 
plane.
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[156]
there are so many keyboard designs that come and go over the years
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[157]
http://www.virtual-laser-keyboard.com/Products.asp
Sunanda
22-Jan-2005
[158]
Designs coming and going .....That's why I'd like to keep the keyboard 
that works for me........But only after I find it.

But then I still use a personal fountain pen rather than utility 
biros.  May be I'm old-fashioned.
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[159x2]
I just noticed that we are in the web development room
what we probably need is a weekend chat room
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[161]
for on topic, we started as keyboards hooked to the Internet / Web...
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[162]
if they made this text recognition software in little better -- and 
I think they do but it does not come from Microsoft -- it would be 
a good way to communicate in All the old me hold me all the fault 
may
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[163]
I like Mozilla's Find-as-type facility ... you simply start writing 
word and cursor moves around the screen - F3 - next occurance, enter 
- choose, backspace - back to previous page etc
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[164]
altme
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[165]
one marketing thing Microsoft used to dis OS2Warp's integration of 
Speech is that in the office, talking is distractive to others, unless 
all have private offices.
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[166]
yes very true
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[167]
Speech recognition make best sense in car and at home.
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[168]
speech recognition is impossible to use in the car
yeksoon
22-Jan-2005
[169]
and rebol may make speech recognition programs confused.

eg. send [steve-:-efish] "lunch appt"
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[170]
I have tried it
yeksoon
22-Jan-2005
[171]
should it launch a program to send the email or should it write the 
code?
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[172]
yeksoon - inteersting point ....
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[173]
it is amazing to see the sentence is that speech recognition software 
composes when there is a lot of random noise in the background -- 
as a radio frequency engineer this  is very puzzling-- the waveforms 
of speech are very distinct and clear compared to random background 
noises
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[174]
does such sw uses wavelet transformations?
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[175]
that's right I was going to try to program -- testing
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[176]
what are you working on in rebol currently, if I may ask? New things, 
fixing bugs, etc?
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[177x3]
view layout [image percent photo.JP button "quit "[quit ] ]
it got more of that than I expected
I'm actually quite amazed that [work so well
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[180]
but percent did not ...
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[181]
someone at Microsoft must have wanted to be sure that we could speak 
in rebol easily
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[182]
you would need some escape char :-)
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[183]
now if I could just get it to capitalize rebol I would be happy
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[184]
:-)) I think it was by-design ....
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[185x6]
let me just tried using the word [in a sentence -- interesting
they do not ever actually spell out the word [it is always assumed 
to be the punctuation mark
() [] brace embrace
two out of three isn't bad
I think see programmers would have a problem -- because brace does 
not show up as punctuation
I will move out of this room now -- sorry about the distraction to 
your conversation
Maarten
22-Jan-2005
[191x2]
wrt speech recognition: I use Dragon Naturallyspeaking quite some 
time, and it works very well. Takes some training but after a few 
horus it is really good. http://www.scansoft.com
I use it when writing reports etc. Just work one day at home and 
a report is finished. What's funny is that I get less remrk on my 
reports/plans when dictated than when written. That's reason enough 
to use it :-)
Ashley
22-Jan-2005
[193]
With regards to keyboards that don't have a numeric pad (or indeed 
function keys), I'm using a "Happy Hacking Lite 2"; a bit pricey 
though but the preferred keyboard of many Linux enthusiasts. Check 
out http://shop.store.yahoo.com/pfuca-store/haphackeylit1.htmlfor 
a picture.
Allen
22-Jan-2005
[194x3]
efish & yeksoon - numberpad not a problem for left handers. Perhaps 
a right-handed keyboard should be made ;-)
numeric pad is used a lot in accounts. Recently I saw a keyboard 
where the number pad was separate from the main keyboard (wireless 
too!) A good solution.
& once it is separated.. it may as well have a calculator display 
too, so it can function with or without the pc.
Ingo
22-Jan-2005
[197]
About keyboard centeredness:

I think it is a problem, I usually position my keyboard in a way 
that the typing space is centerd for me, and the numeric keypad sticks 
out to the right.

Of course then you have trouble reaching for the mouse. So now I 
use the mouse lefthanded ...