World: r3wp

I got a note from Doug that he's confident comments won't be coming 
back, so I'm going to do another update for that.

Info from danish news on tv:
Women use 29 hours on the internet per week.
Men use 27 hours on the internet per week.

People older than 61 years use more time on the internet than people 
between 20 and 60 years old.

Re age differences; Typing speed?  More detail oriented than the 
flash me this tlash me that generation?  Umm, retired with more free 
time?  But an interesting stat.    I wonder if they thought about 
adding a developer category ... 29 hours a day.  Reichart alone would 
probably skew the statistics.  :)

Is evolution a religion http://www.icr.org/article/455/

sorry wrong group

Answer: No. Now you don't have tgo bring it up in the other group.

What do I need to read from a given URL (assume web-page) to find 
out when the page was modified? Is there a way?

Geomol, I wonder if it has something to do with the skill with using 
the computer, how fast something can be looked up, et.c

>> page: open http://rebol.com
>> page/locals/headers/Last-Modified
== "Wed, 30/Apr/2008/01:08:00/+GMT"

>> load skip page/locals/headers/Last-Modified 5
== 30-Apr-2008/1:08

Doc, thanks. Never heard about this...

There's a mezz wrapper for that :

>> modified? http://rebol.com
connecting to: rebol.com
== 30-Apr-2008/1:08

Cool! I could have assumed this...

Does anybody know how I can access the currently displayed URL in 
a web-browser from an external application? I just want to get back 
the URL of the "current" shown web-page in an active window.

That might be hard as it would depend on the browser.

Yes, I know. So any help/idea will help.

is it Windows only?

At the moment yes.

You might have to do some window spying to see what classes things 
are, then enum top windows to find the browser, then enum its child 
windows and do getwindowtext.

Hmm... sounds like a lot of work but OK I will see how I come along.

Would be nice to do something like this flash app with REBOL http://www.livefaceonweb.com/

Robert, are the pages you are accessing static, dynamic or a combination 
of the two?

I don't think the method Doc provided will work for dynamically generated 
pages.  For dynamic content  you will need to use something like
	checksum http://www.rebol.com

However, you will need to maintain a list of the last time a page 
was checked.

Robert, on os x you can do it easly with AppleScript (use ScriptEditor):

tell application "Safari"
	set theURL to URL of the document of front window
end tell

here is a more complete example that will save url of all browser 
windows to a file:
http://daringfireball.net/2003/02/save_and_restore_safari_urls

Brock,  yes dynamic content is hard to track and it depends if it 
makes sense to track.

Will, cool. Thanks. Can such a script be started from Rebol?

Robert: You can run any AppleScript from the command line:
	osacript script_name

this is part of a script I use to monitor and restart  my vpn and 
ssh tunnel :
connect: does [
		call rejoin [{osascript -e "tell application \"System Events\"
			tell current location of network preferences
				set vpn to current configuration of service \"VPN\"
				if not connected of vpn then
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						stop (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
					connect vpn
					delay 6
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						start (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				else
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						stop (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				   disconnect vpn
					delay 6
					connect vpn
					delay 6
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						start (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				end if
			end tell
		end tell"}]
	]

>> stringURL: copy ""
== ""
>> call/output "osascript getURL.as" 
stringURL
== 0
>> theURL: to url! stringURL
== http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A
>> 
theURL
== http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A

>> stringURL: copy ""

== ""

>> call/output "osascript getURL.as" stringURL

== 0

>> theURL: to url! stringURL

 ==http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A
>> 
 theURL

==http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A

Doesn't work with Firefox though

http://blog.thejit.org/javascript-information-visualization-toolkit-jit/

My friend who is building some basic websites was asked by his client 
for the search facility. So far he used Google and its: site:your-domain.com 
feature, but the client would like the output to be customised. So 
here goes the questions:


- does google licence allow customising such output? E.g. wrapping 
it in another color, etc., so that it would look like the rest of 
the client site?

- is it easily technically possible, to parse the result? I mean 
- I can imagine parsing the output, even page paginator, then generating 
custom output. But maybe there is some other solution for that? Maybe 
some google api?

I think you are looking for the API.

For customisation, Yahoo have better Apis.

There was a Google search API (using SOAP), but they withdrew it. 
This page  may lead to alternatives:
http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/clientlibs.html

Their replacement appears to be an Ajax widget.  I'm not sure how 
well that would integrate...

I think I will try CGI and parse ... hopefully I will not break some 
license, albeit I fear that I will be :-)

http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlibs/-- Google host Javascript libraries.

I'm searching for a good free log-file analyzer (whatever that means 
;-)). Any hints? I know:

- Analog
- Webializer

But both are not that good IMO.

Oh, and it should run on the web-server.

this one is pretty complete, not free but you can get a new trial 
key every 30 days http://summary.net/

Rober, 

what kind of logs are u looking at?


if it is for web traffic stuffs, have you look at Google Analytics?

If it is not, just ignore my comments.

Hi Robert  I switched from analog to awstats  about 4 years ago and 
am still with it.

but it also has it's shortfalls.  one of my coworkers was experimenting 
with a timing plugin this spring

Will, thx, never heard about this one.

Yeksoon, yes, web traffic. I heard about Googly Analytics but thought 
you need to add special stuff. Isn't this the case?