World: r3wp

is it Windows only?

At the moment yes.

You might have to do some window spying to see what classes things 
are, then enum top windows to find the browser, then enum its child 
windows and do getwindowtext.

Hmm... sounds like a lot of work but OK I will see how I come along.

Would be nice to do something like this flash app with REBOL http://www.livefaceonweb.com/

Robert, are the pages you are accessing static, dynamic or a combination 
of the two?

I don't think the method Doc provided will work for dynamically generated 
pages.  For dynamic content  you will need to use something like
	checksum http://www.rebol.com

However, you will need to maintain a list of the last time a page 
was checked.

Robert, on os x you can do it easly with AppleScript (use ScriptEditor):

tell application "Safari"
	set theURL to URL of the document of front window
end tell

here is a more complete example that will save url of all browser 
windows to a file:
http://daringfireball.net/2003/02/save_and_restore_safari_urls

Brock,  yes dynamic content is hard to track and it depends if it 
makes sense to track.

Will, cool. Thanks. Can such a script be started from Rebol?

Robert: You can run any AppleScript from the command line:
	osacript script_name

this is part of a script I use to monitor and restart  my vpn and 
ssh tunnel :
connect: does [
		call rejoin [{osascript -e "tell application \"System Events\"
			tell current location of network preferences
				set vpn to current configuration of service \"VPN\"
				if not connected of vpn then
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						stop (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
					connect vpn
					delay 6
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						start (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				else
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						stop (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				   disconnect vpn
					delay 6
					connect vpn
					delay 6
					tell application \"AlmostVPNProMenuBar\"
						start (profile named \"default\")
					end tell
				end if
			end tell
		end tell"}]
	]

>> stringURL: copy ""
== ""
>> call/output "osascript getURL.as" 
stringURL
== 0
>> theURL: to url! stringURL
== http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A
>> 
theURL
== http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A

>> stringURL: copy ""

== ""

>> call/output "osascript getURL.as" stringURL

== 0

>> theURL: to url! stringURL

 ==http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A
>> 
 theURL

==http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/shared/fds/hi/statistics/cricket/scorecards/2008/4/14422/html/scorecard.stm%0A

Doesn't work with Firefox though

http://blog.thejit.org/javascript-information-visualization-toolkit-jit/

My friend who is building some basic websites was asked by his client 
for the search facility. So far he used Google and its: site:your-domain.com 
feature, but the client would like the output to be customised. So 
here goes the questions:


- does google licence allow customising such output? E.g. wrapping 
it in another color, etc., so that it would look like the rest of 
the client site?

- is it easily technically possible, to parse the result? I mean 
- I can imagine parsing the output, even page paginator, then generating 
custom output. But maybe there is some other solution for that? Maybe 
some google api?

I think you are looking for the API.

For customisation, Yahoo have better Apis.

There was a Google search API (using SOAP), but they withdrew it. 
This page  may lead to alternatives:
http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/clientlibs.html

Their replacement appears to be an Ajax widget.  I'm not sure how 
well that would integrate...

I think I will try CGI and parse ... hopefully I will not break some 
license, albeit I fear that I will be :-)

http://code.google.com/apis/ajaxlibs/-- Google host Javascript libraries.

I'm searching for a good free log-file analyzer (whatever that means 
;-)). Any hints? I know:

- Analog
- Webializer

But both are not that good IMO.

Oh, and it should run on the web-server.

this one is pretty complete, not free but you can get a new trial 
key every 30 days http://summary.net/

Rober, 

what kind of logs are u looking at?


if it is for web traffic stuffs, have you look at Google Analytics?

If it is not, just ignore my comments.

Hi Robert  I switched from analog to awstats  about 4 years ago and 
am still with it.

but it also has it's shortfalls.  one of my coworkers was experimenting 
with a timing plugin this spring

Will, thx, never heard about this one.

Yeksoon, yes, web traffic. I heard about Googly Analytics but thought 
you need to add special stuff. Isn't this the case?

Tomc, AWStats is what I currently try to setup.

Google Analytics requires you to add a few lines of Javascript to 
every page that you want GA to track.
That limits the GA stats to user-agents that execute javascript.

Ah, ok, that was why I don't like it that much.

.

I can definitely see:
	none? port/locals/headers/Accept-Ranges
but is it ever true:
	"none" = port/locals/headers/Accept-Ranges
?

Well I shouldn't be so lazy. Let me start collecting empirical data 
...

foreach url [

 http://brokenbeatassault.com/depot/files/BBA_MusicShow_Podcast_001_March_Safire.mp3
	http://dlsvr05.asus.com/pub/ASUS/vga/nVidia/nv16921_Win2KXP.zip
	http://debeveiligingsupdate.nl/audio/bevupd_0003.mp3

 http://audio.wnyc.org/radiolab_podcast/radiolab_podcast501choice.mp3

 http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/8.04.1/MD5SUMS

 http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/dan_gilbert_researches_happiness.html
	http://events.ccc.de/congress/2008/wiki/Streaming

 http://sites.romkids.org/virgill/albums/Bestof PC Demoscene/like a childbirth.mp3
	http://rockfactory.us/files/rebol_song.mp3
][
	port: open/binary/direct url
	print [mold port/locals/headers/Content-Length url]
	close port
]

Only two hosts returned #[none]:
	www.ted.com
	events.ccc.de
and the rest returned strings of lengths, eg: "4279194".

I should test more urls to feel more certain. (Or read http specs... 
hmm.. which gives better results ?)

#[none] means that the header was not there. if it's there, then 
it's going to be a string.

Yes, that makes sense. I think HTTP/1.0 servers are likely to not 
bother sending Accept-Ranges (thus it remains #[none]), while HTTP/1.1 
servers are likely to send it (thus set to either "none" or "bytes").

Anyone know what the proper way to parse this style of URL is?  Opera 
spits it out.  


http://sitecheck2.opera.com/?host=www.rebol.net&hdn=SDbXzuPvK4tsiGnHOia5dA==

Steve, could you be a little more specific.  There are a lot ways 
to parse your parse question :)


For example, are you asking what the "?" and the "&" mean in the 
URL?  Or am I taking too literal?

is it the last "==" which is confusing?  or the encoded data?

The == looks like padding on encoded data to me.

Though I'm not sure:

>> to string!  debase/base "SDbXzuPvK4tsiGnHOia5dA==" 64

== "H6????+?l?i?:&?t"

I asked a broad question because I didn't know what answer I need 
... ;-)


Specifically, this comes out of Opera and when I parse it to HTTP, 
I don't know if I should make a Request of:

Host: sitecheck2.opera.com
Path: /
Target: ?host=www.rebol.net&hdn=SDbXzuPvK4tsiGnHOia5dA==


or some other way, like perhaps Path: none ? and Target: /?host=www.rebol.net&hdn=SDbXzuPvK4tsiGnHOia5dA==

...and at a qualitative level, I think this might be used as a referer...Opera 
does this from the Home Page button.  I don't get it from other browsers.