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Robert
22-Jan-2005
[72]
Hey, I like the dynamic keyboard idea :-)) We should patent this. 
But knocking F5 through my laptop didn't work :-)) I cleared the 
cache. Seems to happen if CSS files are named the same.
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[73x3]
I have some patent work started on an internet keyboard some time 
back...if there is some seriousness, I am interested to start a joint 
project/business with a few interested people.
BTW, funny these keyboard ideas poured in today...like Terry's * 
circle key idea...I was just trying to select-all and copy ... is 
there a key shortcut for this?
besides cntrl-A then Cntrl-C
yeksoon
22-Jan-2005
[76]
and all I want from kb is one that doesn't come with the number pad 
on the right. It makes the mouse 'sits so far away'.
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[77]
yes, that is an important problem...which noone has solve yet properly 
(as my patent searches revealed to me...;-)
yeksoon
22-Jan-2005
[78]
I don't understand why kb manufacturere wants to include that in. 
How many of us use the number pad more often than the main alphabet 
part?


just remove it.... cuts down material cost and can still sell at 
same price.
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[79x2]
me ....
very often - I nearly NEVER us numbers on main keyboard - the reason 
is simple - with foreign languages like Czech, you have to hold shift 
down ....
yeksoon
22-Jan-2005
[81]
I was just shopping for kb today... but end up with nothing. Could 
not find one that fits my needs
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[82x2]
my invention fixed yeksoon's problem, without affecting Pekr's pecking.
I am interested to find a good Mechanical person who wants to work 
on a manufacturable version with me.
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[84]
Yeksoon, I agree. Numpad also throws the kb offcenter relative to 
user. Not good for laps.
Robert
22-Jan-2005
[85]
Become left-handed and it's solved :-))
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[86]
no
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[87]
The mouse has always been a rather clumsy context shift for the user...;-)
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[88x2]
either add some btns on left to balance it out
or take it off
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[90]
mouse <--> keyboard is too much of a context shift the way they are 
at present.
Robert
22-Jan-2005
[91]
It's really funny, I never had this problem because I have my mouse 
on the left side of the keyboard.
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[92]
i did that too for years
Robert
22-Jan-2005
[93]
One of the very, very rare cases a left-handed person has an advantage...
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[94x2]
(on tablet - slow)
must get mic for speech input
Robert
22-Jan-2005
[96]
Tablet's (or better all hand recognition) software is something that 
doesn't work for a left-handed. I write the characters the other 
way. The SW can't handle it :-))
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[97]
tablet IS slower than paper...;-)   I forget what I was going to 
'write" with the pen in the 4 minutes it takes XP to boot...
Robert
22-Jan-2005
[98]
So, just one of those very, very common problems...
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[99]
I tried to train speech on tablet by reading the fairy tale in the 
XP tablet tools...it never recognized anything I spoke (I know my 
speech is tough to understand) but even if I said "blah blah blah 
blah" the tablet acted like it understood me reading the fairy tale. 
 Maybe there is a better version.
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[100]
Carl - no laptop has numpad :-) Or those dozens I worked with ....
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[101]
I call my internet keyboard "The Surf-BoardTM" ... ;-)
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[102x2]
In fact - I never found use for additional keyboard buttons as handling 
sound, player, custom apps launch, sleep and I don't touch mouse 
if I don't have to .... there must be something strange with me ...
I even have special keys for cut, copy and paste, but I am used to 
old way ctrl + particular-button ....
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[104]
ah, I have tried some other keyboads, like with the special buttons, 
the wireless part of WebTV was nice...but for sure we need to have 
REBOL embedded in a wireless keyboard...that would be nice.
yeksoon
22-Jan-2005
[105]
just found out that Logitech does have a 'diNovo'  but the retail 
price is on the high side 

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=1,CONTENTID=7321
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[106]
The problem with special keys and its usage is, that I don't want 
to use such special keys - I do use many PCs actively, notebooks, 
and once some PC does not have such keys, it slows my process of 
work ...
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[107]
yeah, Logitech doesn't get it either...I have read lots of laptop 
keyboard patents...;-)
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[108x4]
The problem with many keyboards is that they are not risc-- they 
need to focus on the most frequent actions .
this text is being influenced by speech recognition
it is a lot faster to input text this way when it comes to things 
like instant messaging
especially when using a tablet that has no keyboard -- that can be 
a big problem
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[112]
IBM has some patents, too...
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[113]
the raisin on a one to get rid of the number pad is that it makes 
the keyboard off center
Pekr
22-Jan-2005
[114]
What do you prefer on notebook - touchpad as a mouse, or that IBM's 
- how to call it - stick between the keys?
yeksoon
22-Jan-2005
[115]
IBM thinkpad's keyboard is pretty good...
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[116]
a Korean contact of mine has tried to penetrate the US market with 
Tablets for nearly 8 years...and it is still not a winner.
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[117]
this throws your whole body off center  for hours at a time-- this 
becomes eight more serious problem if you put the keyboard in your 
lap
eFishAnt
22-Jan-2005
[118]
eight    a speech thing?
Carl
22-Jan-2005
[119x3]
another problem with modern keyboards is that they are built for 
the lowest cost not for the best ergonomics
keyboards are sold at retail prices of between ten to $30.00
that means their manufacturing cost is between five and $15.00 -- 
so very few companies are motivated to innovate on keyboard design