World: r3wp

I used master card. Still no email. 
I hope its being sold as I can't wait for r3...

Carl knows about it .. so don't worry!

what email acount did you use?

He's still on line on the R3alpha world ... I'll pass on your details. 
 Which SDK ?  Command or just pro?

pro 
[fergus4-:-bellatlantic-:-net]

sorry sdk -  not command and not pro

not command/sdk

Do thry still sell view/pro now that view has dll access?

Yes

Got it. Thanks for the help, Graham.

no problems

hope you get your product out there!  :)

What's the best way to detect different versions in an encapped script? 
For automatic update purposes. 

Should I just include some versioning syntax in the name of the updated 
exe that sits on the server?
Also...

I''m having trouble downloading exe's and saving them locally while 
preserving the icons. Do I use read-thru?

I use two methods.  One a cgi script that returns the version of 
the most current distro. If the user's version is less, they need 
to update.

The other way is just to use datestamps. I build in a build time 
into the binary, and use that to check against the latest version 
on the server.  If the server version is newer, the client knows 
to update.  There are some issues with different timezones etc, but 
generally my servers run GMT, and i compute the build time at the 
time of encapping also in GMT.

A script does the upload of the new build so that the build time 
and server file times are not so different .. and I allow an error 
of 5 minutes

I''m having trouble downloading exe's and saving them locally while 
preserving the icons. Do I use read-thru?


I'm not clear on the question. Are you changing the internal icons 
in the exe, and those are on your desktop, but they change when you 
install a new version?

This may be of help: http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/cookbook.html#section-2

If I download an exe file with a unique icon when I save it I get 
the widows default icon for exe's.

I'm using 'read-thru'  to download and 'write' to save it locally.

I'll look it over. Thanks Ashley.

I'm  not able to create an .exe with enface using drag and drop (as 
described in the intro doc). I'm using xp pro. 

Where is the exe placed after creation. The sdk bin folder? or the 
scripts folder? or somewhere else?

Found Gregg's EnList script. Cute and helpfull. I was able to encap 
the test scripts with it but drag and drop does not seem to work.

I've seen reference to "rebolve". Is this a rebol inc product?

I think there were some known issues with DnD. I never encap that 
way. Normally I have a build script that does one or more things, 
including encapping and using reshacker to replace icons in the EXE.

kib, you use the SDK to build .exe files. It's commercial.

Geomol: so that's a problem (for me indeed)

http://www.rebol.com/sdk.html

There is an alternate method, but it's not nearly as good. Don't 
remember what it's called though.

Henrik: but the SDK costs 249$ ! I'm not a professional programmer. 
Programming is just a hobby for me.

Why do you need .exe?

I saw this question many times before in Lisp community !  This is 
just to distibute my programs to non-programmers. It's just easier.

Well yes, it may be. A way to let others run your REBOL programs, 
is also to make a Reb Site in the REBOL Viewtop. Have you looked 
around the Viewtop, you see, when you start REBOL?

yes, it's unfortunately the only way to build executables properly. 
I hope with R3, the process will both be easier and less necessary 
where R3 becomes a more browser-like platform for launching programs. 
One that people will better understand than the Viewtop.

The Reb Sites are located, if you click the REBOL.com icon in the 
Viewtop, then Public/Sites/

Geomol: Yes, I had a look at Reb Sites and I've seen a lot of good 
demos there. You mean all those apps are cloud located, I just have 
to upload mine in my repos and that's it ?

yes

and how can we set a repository ?

kib2, the Viewtop just downloads index.r files from ordinary websites.

Henrik: so simple...so rebol !

There's no repository. it's just like serving webpages, only presented 
differently. Viewtop can just organize them via an index file from 
Rebol technologies.

I use the Viewtop to distribute my programs to customers.

Henrik: it seems like an interesting alternative.

R3 will not use the Viewtop. It's a distribution model that Carl 
did not endorse as the metaphor is too confusing for web usage. Instead 
it will use a script that resembles a webbrowser, with a canvas and 
a URL bar, bookmarks, etc.

then when you go to http://somewhere.com/index.r, it loads a "rebpage", 
i.e. VID layout right in the canvas.

and after that, the world will hopefullly be amazed. :-)

because it basically sets out to solve all shortcomings of web2.0 
apps, while staying in the browser/internet metaphor.

Henrik: so all those nice Rebol R3 GUIs are supposed to work online 
? Really ?

kib, you can also use the Viewtop to let others run your programs, 
but with adding your site under Public/Sites/. If you click the "Goto" 
menu button, you can enter an URL for an index.r file, you have somewhere 
on the internet. And from there launch your programs.

with = without

they already do. you can do all this the same way in R2 by going 
to the console and typing:

do http://www.somewhere.com/script.r

the browser will just present the scripts a little differently.

Geomol: that's really cool. And inside my index.r, I just have to 
write the references to all my rebol scripts ?