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Gabriele 25-Feb-2005 [12] | yep, CONSTRUCT is ok. |
DideC 25-Feb-2005 [13] | good |
Graham 22-Mar-2005 [14x4] | I found that under win32, set-modes file [ modication-date: date ] works in the betas, but not in the latest sdk. Can anyone else confirm this? |
so even something as simple as <% print {hello %> kills rsp and subsequent rsp | |
oops .... | |
ignore that about set-modes .. my error. | |
Pekr 27-Mar-2005 [18x2] | what is latest SDK version, please? |
I mean - even beta ... of course if it is stable enough though ... :-) | |
Graham 27-Mar-2005 [20] | cz out http://www.rebol.net/ |
Ashley 27-Mar-2005 [21] | With source dir: 1.2.0; without: 1.2.48. I've been using 1.2.0 for the last two years or so without any major issues; don't know about 1.2.48 though (apart from the fact that the executables it generates are 30Kb larger). |
[unknown: 5] 27-Mar-2005 [22] | I got a second sdk later on with support for more icons |
Gabriele 31-Mar-2005 [23] | i use 1.2.48 |
Ashley 31-Mar-2005 [24] | Paul: version? |
[unknown: 5] 31-Mar-2005 [25] | maybe the 1.2.48.3.1 version |
Carl 31-Mar-2005 [26x3] | Yes, that 30KB is due to the full-color XP icons. Unfortunately, that space must be reserved in the exe, for reasons that MS must have, but are not entirely clear. |
In other words, if you open the exe in an icon editor, you will see all the different kinds of icons that are in there taking that space. | |
It is ironic, those icons take up almost 3 times the space of the entire REBOL/Services enhancement! | |
Gregg 1-Apr-2005 [29] | Ironic but critical for making a good impression sometimes. We could probably get real tricky about how to reduce the need for them, but is it worth the effort? |
[unknown: 5] 1-Apr-2005 [30x2] | I believe the icons are needed because I was experimenting with it and found without it I couldn't not get the results I wanted on XP. |
They are that one thing that people associate a name with - may as well make it look good in my opinion. | |
Graham 5-Apr-2005 [32x2] | Has anyone else seen this nasty encap bug where you can't read the current directory? |
ie. this fails ... read what-dir and you have to read dirize what-dir instead? | |
[unknown: 5] 5-Apr-2005 [34x2] | I remember reporting a directory bug sometime back but it was only related to root directories I think |
Oh I think I remember that bug also where there is no path | |
Graham 5-Apr-2005 [36] | I looked at rambo .. nothing there, so I entered it today. |
Ashley 6-Apr-2005 [37] | Is it related to this problem: http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/rebol/ml-display-thread.r?m=rmlNBPC |
Graham 6-Apr-2005 [38x2] | Hmm. Could be. I''ll ask my user to see if they are using request-dir before the error occurs |
even write join %./ %file.txt "sometext" fails | |
Rondon 6-Apr-2005 [40] | Hi Folks! How to solve to not open the console window or to change the window title for no-windows applications? |
Geomol 6-Apr-2005 [41] | Console window: use header word "encap". See in docs/encap.html of your SDK. |
Rondon 6-Apr-2005 [42x4] | Geomol, I'm using this word |
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rambo.r?id=3660& | |
take a look | |
I'm trying to encap my non View applications.. cgi[ | |
Graham 6-Apr-2005 [46] | you can't change the title yet for console windows .. I've asked carl to fix this. |
Ashley 7-Apr-2005 [47] | Anyone recommend a good [free] WinXP substitute for IconEdit32 since I've moved from SDK 1.2.10 to 1.2.48 (it doesn't support 16.8m color icons). |
Chris 7-Apr-2005 [48x2] | IconSushi. It's not so much an editor as a compiler, importing PNG (including 32-bit) and BMP... |
http://www.towofu.net/soft/e-aicon.php | |
Ashley 7-Apr-2005 [50x2] | Thanks Chris, that's a handy little util. The only thing it can't do is change PNG color depth (useful if you generate your PNGs from REBOL). Any ideas on that score? |
Hmm, I tracked down pngcrush (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=1689&package_id=6641), and while its usage seems clear enough: pngcrush.exe -bit_depth 4 24bit.png 4bit.png it dosen't seem to work. | |
[unknown: 9] 7-Apr-2005 [52x2] | That does suck indeed. |
But that also requires colour space which is why they prob decided to just bunt. | |
Ashley 7-Apr-2005 [54] | Not quite the batch solution I had in mind, but MSPaint lets you save a PNG as a 4, 8 or 24 bit BMP ... which is good enough for IconSushi ... which works with good old ResHacker ... which lets me, wait for it, change the default REBOL icons in an encapped program ... and folks wonder why REBOL isn't mainstream yet! ;) (An "Encap: [icons %my-icons.ico]" type option would be a good thing IMHO). |
Graham 7-Apr-2005 [55] | rambo ! |
Chris 8-Apr-2005 [56x2] | If you're into Amiga emulation, I can recommend PPaint (it's what I use for exactly this purpose) to reduce 24-bit pngs. PNGQuant is another command line utility that I use to convert 32-bit to 8-bit rgba (for small IOS icons :o) though 8-bit windows icons are strictly rgb. |
Oh, almost forgot: http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/apps/pngquant.html | |
Gregg 8-Apr-2005 [58x3] | *LOVE* ResHacker for that. Easy to script into encap build processes. |
you can't change the title yet for console windows -- You can probably do it with API calls. Haven't tried, but it should work NP. | |
I use Axialis's IconWorkshop. Not free, but works well for me. | |
Cyphre 8-Apr-2005 [61] | the best tool for PNG optimization in size is pngout.exe from famous ken Silverman: http://advsys.net/ken/utils.htm |
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