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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID
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Graham 21-May-2006 [3699] | I'd also like to see the drop list drop down on clicking on the text and not just the down arrow. |
Robert 21-May-2006 [3700x2] | Graham, all things I mentioned are implemented. |
So just give us some days to see if it really works. | |
Pekr 21-May-2006 [3702] | Robert - would it be problematic to "port" Cyphre's grid? It contains nicely abstracted engine too, is rather small. IIRC you contracted Cyphre for that earlier and even I did, to add horizontal scrolling ... |
Robert 21-May-2006 [3703x4] | Yes, that's an option as well. |
Ashley, how about adding some screenshots to paragraph 3.3 of the docs? Would make it much easier to understand what's going on. | |
So, how can I create a column based layout? I need first to draw several buttons downward and than right of them several fields downward. I can't layout out them by line because I need the focus to cycle through all fields and not to jump from button to field to button etc. | |
Better: Is there a way to remove a widget from the focus cycle? | |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3707x2] | Do you have a short example? Maybe i find some interesting lines in the source. |
of rebgui | |
Robert 21-May-2006 [3709x3] | Example: At the moment I use button "a" field "a" return button "b" field "b" return and I need below button "a" button "b" return ; return right of button "a" positon field "a" field "b" |
So something like GUIDE in VID but more convinient to use. The VID GUIDE isn't very logical to use IMO. | |
Maybe a LINE or COLUMN keyword would be good. And the COLUMN width is derived from the widest widgets placed in one line. | |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3712] | removing focus would save your problem too? |
Robert 21-May-2006 [3713] | Yes, if I could specify for each widget in the OPTIONS block if the focus can be set to the widget via keyboard or not, that would solve the problem as well. Pressing TAB should search so long until an "open" widget is found. |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3714] | Would preprocesing help for now? something like below[ . button "a" . button "b" return ; return right of button "a" positon . field "a" . field "b" ] |
Robert 21-May-2006 [3715x2] | What do you mean with pre-processing? |
how to add this than to a bigger layout? | |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3717x3] | giving it a layout like the above and turning it into button "a" field "a" return button "b" field "b" return |
compose? | |
i hope rebgui has sub-panels. | |
Robert 21-May-2006 [3720] | Adding a new keyword like BELOW would be OK. |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3721x2] | But i dont know the internals for now. If you can wait for Ashley ok, just playing around. |
No, i made a thinking-error. preprocessing would not work. | |
Robert 21-May-2006 [3723] | table: Can I set the selected row at run-time? I would like to pre-select the first entry. |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3724x4] | display "Example" compose [ button "a" [face/type: 'untabbed-button] field "a" return button "b" field "b" return ] |
in rebgui-edit tabbed: [area field edit-list password button] tabbed?: make function! [face [object!]] [all [find tabbed face/type face]] ; [che] Returns TRUE if a face itself (not one of it's pane's subfaces) is tabbable (NONE otherwise). | |
how to do that type-change on creation? | |
my demo: after pressing button "a" its no longer tabbable. | |
Anton 21-May-2006 [3728] | Yes, rebgui asserts that certain widget types are tabbable. It is not an attribute of a widget instance that can be changed, except by a trick such as Volker's, above. Changing the type is not recommended because it is bound to break other rebgui behaviour. |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3729] | But as a hack on button? |
Anton 21-May-2006 [3730x3] | So this means Rebgui's behaviour must change or you must accept the current behaviour. |
I wouldn't be very happy with this hack in my code. | |
But I thought of a better hack. Put the non-tabbing widget into a group of its own. Looks like rebgui doesn't recurse into subfaces when tabbing. | |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3733] | Can widgets be derived from each other? If i make a lookalike of button and change only the name, it would be the same? |
Anton 21-May-2006 [3734x3] | But rebgui would not know about your new style, and so it may miss out on other facilities of rebgui. |
In VID, there is face/flags, which can contain the 'tabbed flag. | |
Thus the VID style is independant of the tabbability of an instance. Rebgui strongly ties tabbability to the rebgui type. | |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3737x2] | ;hack but tab works: display "Example" compose [ button "a" field "a" return button "b" field "b" return do [ foreach [but fie] face/pane [but/type: 'untabbed-button] ] ] |
what else is the /type used for? | |
Anton 21-May-2006 [3739x3] | Well, it's referred to a few times in rebgui-edit.r |
Ahh, it doesn't work! Rebgui also tabs into the group-box... | |
display "" [field group-box "" data [field] field] | |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3742] | What does not work? |
Ashley 21-May-2006 [3743] | Robert Docs: the 'Widgets' section of the 'RebGUI Display User's Guide' is already in the Repository (the WidgetList Wiki entry) ... I'll be removing that section from the guide once all the widget details have been copied across. Feel free to update the Wiki with any widget specific usage notes / instructions. Forward any other doc changes to me and I'll put them in. I plan to eventually move all the docs across to the Wiki, just haven't got around to doing it yet. "do you first want to take a look at the changes or should I just check them in?" ... Just check them in thanks. screenshots: added to the ToDo list widget placement: I'm coming around to the idea that BELOW may be unavoidable, even if undesirable from a design / complexity POV tabbing: Anton about summed it up Volker Type: also used by accessor functions |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3744] | seems "/type = button" is used for something with 'over too. but i note no difference in some short tests. Still better ask ashley. |
Anton 21-May-2006 [3745] | Volker, I wanted to "hide" the second field from tabbing by putting it in the group-box. But it didn't work. |
Volker 21-May-2006 [3746x2] | Ah! No, tabbing in rebgui seems to be very smart. For now does not work with iterated faces, say the comments. |
Some good choices for the general case in rebgui, from my starter-POV. | |
Anton 21-May-2006 [3748] | That's understandable. |
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