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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID

Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5548]
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/rebgui-btns.png<--- well, it's a start.
Rebolek
28-Feb-2007
[5549]
nicer
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5550]
nicer ... but buttons should be taller imo :-)
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5551]
yes they should. I altered the size to 20 pixels but it had no effect?
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5552]
I am not just proponent of "full colors". If I say - button red, 
I don't really mean "full red" :-) I like a bit more mild coloring 
...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5553]
yes. OTOH, you have full control over the button color. VID standard 
BTN does some contrast reduction, so a red button appears pale red.
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5554x2]
... that's the same as with view layout [button 100 red "first" btn 
100 red "second"]
but those gradients and shapes look definitely better to me ...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5556]
with a more consistent look, the buttons will appear even better.
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5557x2]
what do you mean by "more consistent look"? Overall refactoring of 
RebGUI? Hmm, maybe Henrik needs to be put on contract for one week, 
to change default coloring and styling, to make RebGUI more attractive 
:-)
Have you seen Network Detective?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5559x3]
pekr, I mean that buttons that look really good in one context may 
look like crap in a diffferent context. The buttons look overall 
rather bland against the cream colored background. A darker gray 
would emphasize the buttons more. It all distracts the balance of 
the look if the colors are disjointed and obscure certain features 
in the buttons.
yes
contract? well, yes, I could use the money. :-)
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5562]
:-)
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5563]
but I'm no fan of the Luna XP look
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5564x4]
I am not either ... in fact I held way too long off from rebgui, 
becuse it looks dull, much worse than default VID
e.g. - some time ago I did this comparison - http://www.xidys.com/btn-comparison.jpg
I voted for 1.3 to have Chris look - on the left side. You can also 
see default XP look, and current 1.3
cyphre styles - http://www.xidys.com/cyphre-styles.jpg- the design 
works, maybe because of darker background. I will try in the evening, 
to put tabs not on the dark background directly, but first in the 
group box ....
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5568]
yes, it's harder to do nice looking buttons against a bright background.
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5569]
otoh - tab completly fails on dark background. There is only few 
pixel visual space between tabs - try to run demo and set dark grey/blue/black 
background. It does not feel good ...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5570x4]
INIT is a little odd here. It seems to be set to NONE after the face 
has been initialized.
found out how it works now.
http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/hmkrebgui.zip
this is not a part of the official distribution or the SVN repository.
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5574]
I try to download it now ... what is different there?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5575x2]
only the button
I'll do one at a time and have you review it
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5577]
it would be enough to post button.r, no?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5578x2]
it would, but I thought it might be confusing?
in that case http://rebol.hmkdesign.dk/rebgui/button.r
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5580]
henrik - on buttons tab - can you see hilite effect for the most 
left button?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5581]
no, I wondered if that is on purpose? Didn't check the source for 
tour.r
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5582]
imo, and just really imo, button should be the same "size" (height) 
as tabs, no?
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5583]
there's something I forgot for that "Info" button, will fix for next 
release.
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5584]
it clearly can be seen in Calendar widget imo
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5585x3]
I'd redesign that widget later to use completely square buttons.
dumped the 3D groove, which simplified the draw block somewhat
button.r updated
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5588]
I can see very small problem with hiliting, but that might be deeper 
rebol bug? Go to requestors, try to select some date ... the button 
stays hilited, unless you move mouse over it once again ...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5589]
I see your bug and raise you one fix. :-) (I think it's a poker term)
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5590]
:-)
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5591]
early field.r uploaded. have to go out for a bit...
Pekr
28-Feb-2007
[5592]
ok ...
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5593]
field.r improved a bit.
Chris
28-Feb-2007
[5594]
Interesting to see those old styles :)
Henrik
28-Feb-2007
[5595x2]
field.r updated again. working a bit on password now.
password.r uploaded
Maxim
28-Feb-2007
[5597]
its funny cause through all those years of working on glayout, I 
never really took the time work on the actual aesthetics, that was 
not the point of GLayout... and since its built over VID... well 
we can effectively rework all and reuse most VID styles.


  somehow, I find, with the looks derived from henrik's previous tests, 
  where very close to what I would have done myself (hehe henrik and 
  I have to meet at devcon... I think we'd have much in common) Glayout 
  has found itself a simple yet elegant look.  The latest version have 
  started to work a bit more towards looks, and now the highlight is 
  used throughout, so one can change one line and switch  the default 
  golden color to anyone... I'm trying out grey blue these days.