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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID
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Graham 30-May-2008 [7548] | An odd error .. if I do this on a table ... face/remove-row I get an error complaining of an invalid path. I have to use the table name |
Normand 4-Jun-2008 [7549] | Hi, folks. I am getting back to an application I developped with RebGui in 2006. I did download the last one from SVN, but the app no longer works under the current version of RebGui. I get a lot of error messages about show-text, even the most simple ones, like --> show-text Fmsg "Warning -- Unable to read Products, Phone&Meet and Notes. No file to read." <--. Looking at docs, I still see the show-text function; there is still some appearances in some docs, but there are not much. Maybe it is deprecated now? I see set-text, but it talks about attributes of text, not its content. So not shure it is the one to use now. I would need to show the app soon, but hesitate to retarget the code, seing the frequency of the error message ** Script Error: show-text has no value. Inexistant function, bad assignement (for unknown reasons), or something else. For me, hard to know now. From the 2006 epoch, is there a lot of change. The app still get drawn a bit, though. Thanks for an answer that would me out of problem. |
Graham 4-Jun-2008 [7550] | show-text: :set-text |
Normand 4-Jun-2008 [7551] | Thanks ; I converted show-text to set-text; show-values to set-values; show-title to set-title; show-focus to set-focus; the demo works back. |
Graham 14-Jun-2008 [7552] | I see a number of on handlers. Is there a way to have a on-drag handler as well for dragging objects? |
Graham 15-Jun-2008 [7553x3] | Using Henrik's images |
wait-images: copy [] bg: make image! [20x20] forall bg [change bg 0.0.0.255] colors: copy [] for i 8 1 -1 [ dr: copy [pen none fill-pen black translate 15x8] for j 0 7 1 [append colors 0.0.0.255 - (j * 35)] for j 0 7 1 [ append dr compose/deep [ fill-pen (pick colors (j + i) // 8) rotate 45 translate 3x3 circle 2x2 ] ] append wait-images draw copy bg dr ] | |
anim wait-images rate 10 | |
Henrik 15-Jun-2008 [7556] | cool |
Graham 15-Jun-2008 [7557] | yep, cool :) |
Pekr 15-Jun-2008 [7558] | Hello. One of my friends, not even a probrammer, jut Perl user, was asked to prepare solution for their production line. They will need to cover more than 100 Terminals with touch screens. He is a friend of Bobik and mine, so Perl, Python, and REBOL alternatives were possible. I have the pleasure to aanoucne, that REBOL + RebGUI was choosen. While app is rather primitive - few fields on the left, numeric + few alphabetic keys on the right, connecting to mySQL, the environment is also very restrictive - Terminals (don't remember the model) are older ones, 24MB of RAM, no hardisk, P300 performance. The solution boots Linux from network and RebGUI app is loaded ... only 1MB or RAM is left, so the solution is so so ... I would like to ask, if RAM consumption could be improved with encapping app with rebface for e.g.? |
Henrik 15-Jun-2008 [7559] | probably a little bit, since you can select what to include. I suppose VID can be removed if RebGUI is going to be the GUI for the application. |
Ashley 16-Jun-2008 [7560x2] | Graham, very clever ... that's almost worth a widget in its own right. |
Pekr, using rebface instead of rebview will make a big difference as rebface excludes VID and all help text is stripped out. On OS/X I get the following: REBFACE >> stats == 2085621 >> recycle >> stats == 1911437 REBVIEW >> stats == 6260880 >> recycle >> stats == 4810174 You can also create a custom RebGUI build that excludes widgets you don't intend using (see http://trac.geekisp.com/rebgui/browser/create-distribution.r ) which will save a few more bytes. Lastly, make sure your app does not use any unneeded images (e.g. a background image when a simple draw effect might suffice). Even with these measures you'll only be left with about 3MB free ... but 3MB is better than 1MB. | |
Pekr 16-Jun-2008 [7562] | Thanks Ashley, appreciated! |
Pekr 18-Jun-2008 [7563x3] | What do I need to "include", when doing rebface + rebgui? rebface.exe tour.r does not work ... |
LOL - RTFM :-) http://www.dobeash.com/RebGUI/cookbook.html#section-2 | |
hmm, no luck with linux SDK, there is one workaround, which seems to prevent us from rebface usage :-( | |
Graham 21-Jun-2008 [7566] | What's the approved way of setting the focus so that the caret is at home? set in area 'caret 1 set-focus/caret area ?? |
Ashley 22-Jun-2008 [7567x2] | Pekr, try the following (after the do/#include of %rebgui.r): ctx-rebgui/layout [text "?"] |
Graham, yes. | |
Pekr 23-Jun-2008 [7569] | so, after some testing, which I am confused a bit about, it seems that RebGUI is not all that memory savy. For simple hello world example based upon rebface, it consumed even more memory than VID. |
BrianH 23-Jun-2008 [7570x3] | Is that also the case for rebface builds of RebGUI? |
(sorry, missed it) | |
I'm not aware of any R2 GUI framework that is not a memory hog, but my standards are probably off. | |
Pekr 23-Jun-2008 [7573] | IIRC RebGUI was supposed to be more memory savy, which does not seem to be the case. What is also interesting is, that rebol 1.2.47 consumed less memory ... |
Graham 24-Jun-2008 [7574] | I'm experimenting a little now, but with multiple resizable panels, I think it might be easier to generate layouts on the fly rather than keep a static layout that one updates various fields. |
Robert 24-Jun-2008 [7575] | Petr, you will have a baseline memory consumption but it's not going up a lot. So make your app more complex ;-) |
Graham 25-Jun-2008 [7576x3] | think this might be classed as a bug in the layout display "" compose [ button "testing" 15.1 button "again"] do-events the first button does not display if there is a decimal size |
Because Rebgui uses a default pixel size that can be eg. 4, you can't easily get pixel precision in layouts. | |
correction .. the second button does not display | |
Pekr 25-Jun-2008 [7579] | Robert - there still has to be a leak in REBOL! Even if you try primitive hello world example, you start with 6MB of RAM, you do nothing, and after do-events it grows 3 - 4 MB, slowly, but constantly! |
Ashley 25-Jun-2008 [7580] | Out of interest, the memory figures on OS/X using rebface are: rebface 1.8Mb VID 3.2Mb after loading %view.r RebGUI 3.5Mb after loading %rebgui.r but these are for the respective defaults (VID apps often require additional patches/fixes and styles, RebGUI apps rarely use *all* the default widgets). I should also add that RebGUI (or indeed VID) have ever been fully profiled and optimized. |
Pekr 25-Jun-2008 [7581] | So the correct route is to build custom rebgui.r, including only widgets I am using? |
Graham 25-Jun-2008 [7582] | Is there a way we can "robustify" rebgui so that we trap all errors?? make object! [ code: 312 type: 'script id: 'cannot-use arg1: 'multiply arg2: 'decimal! arg3: none near: [freedom * face/data] where: 'wake-event ] |
btiffin 25-Jun-2008 [7583x2] | Yep; go: does [display ...] while [[error? err: try [go]] [alert mold err go] Along those lines... I haven't got the code in front of me |
[[ ]] should be [ ] ... umm, mental methane | |
Graham 25-Jun-2008 [7585x2] | Hmm.. I already trap the errors ... I would much prefer that they didn't happen! |
ie. they are trapped inside the rebgui code and dealt with there. | |
Graham 26-Jun-2008 [7587] | I've put a check in the engage event to see if face/data is none?, and if so, make it 0. In case someone like me has set it directly to none ... |
Graham 28-Jun-2008 [7588x2] | this is my new appointments display ... is there a way I can drag the buttons around? http://screencast.com/t/ou1MwDdS |
so I can move an appt from one slot to another | |
[unknown: 5] 28-Jun-2008 [7590] | Looks good Graham. |
Brock 28-Jun-2008 [7591] | Cyphre has a drag-panel style that allows drag and drop of various objects on a window. |
Graham 28-Jun-2008 [7592] | Does it work with Rebgui? |
Brock 29-Jun-2008 [7593] | I don't know. I just remember he had the style. Don't know how well it works as I've never used it, let alone with RebGUI |
Graham 30-Jun-2008 [7594] | I've got some custom panels that I have a resizing routine written for them. how do I trigger that to run when the main window resizes? |
shadwolf 7-Jul-2008 [7595] | graham i like your app it's very beautyfull ^^ |
Graham 7-Jul-2008 [7596] | Thanks shadwolf :) |
Pekr 7-Jul-2008 [7597] | Graham - nice interface - what widget is used for the scheduler displaying time slots? |
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