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[!RebGUI] A lightweight alternative to VID

Ashley
6-Nov-2008
[7848]
Hmm, as are the others.
Graham
6-Dec-2008
[7849]
Ashley .. are Rebgui display objects so diferent from VID ones?  
I'm just wondering why henrik's to-postscript function doesn't work 
... see postscript group.
Ashley
6-Dec-2008
[7850]
Shouldn't be ... both display and layout just generate a bunch of 
view faces at the end of the day. If it's really an issue you can 
always call system/words/layout from within RebGUI for those layouts 
that must be VID generated.
Graham
6-Dec-2008
[7851x4]
I thought as much.
system/words/layout would mean I would have to use the VID dialect 
though
What I need is an object browser for Rebgui
A tablet user asks ... how to enable multiselect without using the 
control key ... he's using tablet in slate mode so no keyboard, and 
the virtual keyboard takes up too much real estate.
Ashley
7-Dec-2008
[7855]
Map the CNTRL key to one of the freely assignable TabletPC buttons? 
How does he do it currently (e.g. in File Explorer)?
Graham
7-Dec-2008
[7856]
He doesn't normally do this.
Graham
22-Dec-2008
[7857x2]
I've got three vertically left aligned group-box's and I'm sizing 
them the same by using absolute sizes to also right align them.  
But this means I can't use different gui sizes because then the contents 
of the boxes can exceed the group-box.  But if I use automatic sizing 
using -1x-1, then I can't get both left and right sides of the group-boxes 
to align ... or can I??
Unless I enclose all of the group-boxes inside another grouping widget 
and use the #L directive on all the group boxes?
ManuM
22-Dec-2008
[7859]
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ManuM
24-Dec-2008
[7860x2]
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Pekr
13-Jan-2009
[7862x2]
How to easily set auto resizing, for simple scenario as - window, 
two group boxes, in each of them area. I try with various LVHW combinations, 
but can't it get working, group-boxes are overlapping with simple 
#HW:


display "just a try" [group-box "1" 100x50 #HW data [] group-box 
"2" 100x50 #HW data []] do-events
it works, if I change panel 2 to #HX, but then it does not resize 
....
Graham
13-Jan-2009
[7864]
Looks like a resizing bug.
Kai
18-Jan-2009
[7865x2]
Ashley - how do I overcome this problem:  I need to reduce the record 
block prior to db-inserting it because it contains sub-blocks. I 
would like to use 'next inside for autoincs, however.....
oops - group is one off
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[7867]
I've got about 300 different screens in my application ( apparently 
someone counted ) ...which is a bit of a  cognitive load on the users 
:(
Henrik
22-Jan-2009
[7868]
Graham, how long does your app take to load and how are the screens 
initially set up?
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[7869x8]
I am trying to use the function keys to replace a mouse click on 
the "Save" button.  But the function keys are  global .... so if 
one defines it to have a specific action for one screen, there's 
bound to be a problem where the wrong definition arises.
How long ... not too long. Never timed it.
Screens are all created dynamically.
So, what I need to do is make the F keys stick to a particular screen, 
rather than being global.
the parameters that are available are face and event
So, how can I use the face to identify the particular screen ... 
without too much work!
http://demo-client.s3.amazonaws.com/synapse.exe
I ditched the Windows installer and my app now does the installation 
of all the accessory programs viz. ghostscript, gsview, imagemagick, 
jarnal etc
Reichart
22-Jan-2009
[7877]
which is a bit of a  cognitive load on the users :(
 

Yes, Qtask has the same problem...  Having looked at many applications 
that have LOTS of tabs, medical, legal, etc. I don't know yet what 
way around it there is.


One idea I have is that you come in to a mostly blank set of screens, 
with a few tabs, and a button that brings up a dialog.
It is a giant menu of things you can ask to be on the screen.

You pick from this, and at LEAST then everything that is there you 
put there.
Also, you can turn everything on quickly as a feature.

And you will always know if you don't see it, it is probably on that 
menu of things.
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[7878x9]
Don't understand.
I guess I can use the text content of the face to work out where 
I am .. and hope I have unique text strings.
I do hide buttons etc .. which only appear based on choices the user 
makes
Trying to simplify what the user can see ... to reduce the possible 
actions the user can take.
ie. less is more sort of thing
Or, I colour code buttons .. making the most likely selected button 
green ... so the users can work using their hind brains
the occipital cortex sits above the brain stem and cerebellum
One of the possible solutions I wondered about is to create multiple 
different applications somehow sharing the data ... like an IOS desktop
This is what MS has done by creating the control panel .. did Gnome 
copy this?
Henrik
22-Jan-2009
[7887]
I couldn't get Synapse to run, but was wondering if soft keys is 
the answer. If you've used an HP48 or similar calculator, it has 
6 F-keys which are assigned to different operations depending on 
which screen is shown.
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[7888x3]
Nope, never used an HP48
which problem did you get with Synapse??
But that is what I am trying to do .. assign diferent ops based on 
the current screen.
Henrik
22-Jan-2009
[7891]
It seemed to install fine and Cheyenne is running. But I was not 
allowed to connect to it.
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[7892x2]
oh .. don't use localhost
Cheyenne is just there for displayiing timelines.
Henrik
22-Jan-2009
[7894]
Graham, I think a lot of measuring devices use this technique with 
soft keys. If you have a device with a fixed set of blank keys next 
to the display, they would likely work as softkeys.
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[7895]
The trick then is to define them per screen.
Henrik
22-Jan-2009
[7896]
yes... I have an app that works in a similar way. the answer was 
to construct a dialect that describes each screen with well-defined 
parts.
Graham
22-Jan-2009
[7897]
hmm.. I didn't do that ... so I guess I just have to use the window 
title.