World: r3wp

in reply..to my question on whether there is a 'live' broadcast

and Reichart can't get onto AltME ?  Perhaps he's forgotten his password?

R: 		Also, we have not started yet, but almost there.
They are blocking AltME in some way, but not HTM.

ahh.. the school's squid server

I'll betcha the problem is a proxy server.

is AltMe's message encrypted..?

Squid? It is proxy, no? Or FW?

yes, it is encrypted ...

well, from experience I know that Altme doesn't like proxy servers

last year DevCon... Carl mention one of their lessons learnt from 
IOS is that sometimes encrypted message may contain 'dirty characters'...that 
can be rejected by proxy, firewall etc.

'dirty' = 'non approved words...

and since they're at a school, they almost are certainly using a 
free proxy like squid.

so, we can all blame Reichart !

I would not do so, as Reichart is right now the only connection with 
DevCon :-)

'k -- quick hack of an old app:

do http://www.ross-gill.com/r/rebcon-map.r

Or try 'where' on my rebsite...

I'd get it to do more, but it was a pig to get it to do this much...

ok what is it doing?

Just sharing coordinates.  Type in your name, and click where you 
are on the map.

It shows where we all are...

see 4 dots including mine

does it shows 'who' is on which dot

backspace in the text field gives error

Yep, next stage would be to -- a) save your name and dot, b) show 
a list of names, c) highlight the dot of the selected name, and d) 
show their local time.

kind of similar to 'givist' from Google

** Script Error: caret-to-offset expected offset argument of type: 
any-string
** Where: edit-text
** Near: caret-to-offset face caret
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gvisit

1:10 am on the west coast

Yep, I had an error too -- I guess that happens when you're typing 
and it updates...

well I look forward to all the stuff I'll see worked out in the morning. 
 good night

Here's hoping...

ok, so still not clear if the stream will work or not, I give up 
too ... going to dress myself up and prepare to move to my work, 
there I will be on AltME at least (but via GPRS, so no chance to 
have enough throughput to watch the eventually running stream ...)

The stream was real fun for me last year ... I have my gfx card connected 
to tv-out typed here on altme on the primary monitor, watching video 
stream on TV ... it was cool ...

would switching to ios work? it goes thru proxies?

Trillian works well too

would be cooler if its done with rebol ;)

would be cooler if anything worked

Agreed. But trying ios first would cost 5 minutes. OTOH other messengers 
would be multiplatform.

you forget the 5 min delay between each message in iOS messenger

only on loaded servers. fresh ones are faster.

oh well, I don't have IOS installed anymore.

who provides groups then? jabber, icq, irc?

Pity Jaime can't code up a chat program now ...apparently he was 
going to do this while at Devcon during his talk.

Yeksoon, any updates?

just messae Reichart via QTask..let's see if he is monitoring it.

it must be 'painful' for him...to use QTask rather than AltMe :)

ML message from Gabriele:

<<Unfortunately network connectivity is not working as we wanted 
it to, so we had to drop the real time video streaming.>>
http://mail.rebol.net/cgi-bin/mail-list.r?msg=39251

Bummer...

ah well... at least the conference is going

from R:
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Update on the Dev Con.

Sadly, while we have wireless, and access to the Web, not to AltME! 
 Shame.

Also; Although it is being taped correctly, we can't get it on the 
web.


Apparently there are a lot of problems with Firewalls here, at different 
levels, as in, we are in a school, but in a addition, the Italian 
gov might be blocking some stuff.  We are not sure.
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