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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005

[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1509]
Gab is stepping people through the rocess of building RebService 
apps.  It is quite simple though.  So simple (from my view) that 
there is not much to talk about.
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1510]
now the secret is out!...building rebservice is simple.

and this altme group is web-public...in time it will be Googled
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1511]
:-)
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1512]
did you said video ?
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1513x2]
Can Gab paste an example for us?
...not to run, but to see?
Sunanda
30-Sep-2005
[1515]
Yeksoon -- but the secret will probably drop of of the last 300 messages 
long before Google gets to it. Secrets are safe in a fast-moving 
Altme group
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1516]
I just fear one thing - we heard lot's of nice announcements last 
year - Rebservices, BCD, rebin, RIF, language plug-ins, etc etc. 
None of them actually happened (public release). So now I wonder, 
if there is actually anything concrete in the pipeline this time. 
You know - it is nice to say, that next year we will see Rebol to 
spread x-fold, but such claim has to be supported by some conrete 
plan ...
Chris
30-Sep-2005
[1517]
Is this like eFish's '7-minutes' presentation? :o)
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1518]
every year..there will be a 'too simple' to do presentation
Sunanda
30-Sep-2005
[1519]
Petr -- I agree.

Let's hope there is a "review of last year's minutes" somewhere on 
the agenda.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1520]
what about developers who need a cutting edge tool and whant to keep 
competitive level against java or php ?
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1521]
Tool, like what?
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1522]
he means Rebol, competitive Rebol, progressing Rebol :-)
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1523]
rebol of course, and i mean the new enhacements rebol is planning 
async, vid or gui, multitasking (if ever) etc...
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1524]
the way I see..pieces are fallig in place..

Carl seems to be rebuilding the rebol team (my view)
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1525]
:-)
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1526]
IMHO, it really comes down to just producing things. Make cool, useful 
apps and the programmers will come.
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1527]
GUI will continue to evolve (VID or not )...this is mention in the 
key note..and I think Reb-GUI is supporting it in that direction 
somehow
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1528]
o_0 well.... this kind of changes are good news i think
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1529]
Carl wants to have 1'000s of gadgets next year and he needs people 
to write them
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1530]
Konfab is one area that Rebol is well suited to 'replace' or at least 
showcase as an alternative technology platform
Rebolek
30-Sep-2005
[1531]
I've left my old job today and I'm looking for new one :)
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1532]
did he say what kind of gadgets?
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1533]
gui means some extended framework ?
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1534]
yeksoon: right again
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1535]
Ladislav - yes, what do you mean by those gadgets? :-)
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1536]
easy custom control, data gid for example, and some native r/view 
gadgets ?
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1537]
This discussion really begs the question about what makes a language 
popular?
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1538]
yes i agree
PhilB
30-Sep-2005
[1539]
or Is he talking about gadgets using LNS ?
Volker
30-Sep-2005
[1540]
i guess rss-readers on stereoids?
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1541]
He is answering questions now, so I will start asking in a sec.  
Starting with "When?"
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1542]
let's be honest rebol need money to grow !
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1543]
e.g. Konfab, etc.
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1544x2]
Or is it that nothing "makes" it popular. It just becomes.
Right Benjamin. At least to keep the offices open.
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1546]
open source nature makes it popular or some killer app, otherwise 
how do you explain all that hype surrounding Ruby? :-)
Volker
30-Sep-2005
[1547]
having somethig cool to plug in.
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1548]
Rebol has investors
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1549]
yes some times i fell like a child nagging daddy to go disneyland
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1550]
I will always wave the flag that Rebol needs a killer app.
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1551]
Investors? OK then - what Carl means by "rebol team" - does he mean 
extended community support, like with View 1.3 project, or are Holger, 
Jeff or anyone else coming on-board?
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1552]
R, that's right. There was a time when Commodore was thinking about 
porting Lotus 123. Personally, I think that strategy would have been 
good.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1553]
i think R/T need's a change of context, the actual time and development 
costs coud be reduced by some open code strategy  just an idea ...
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1554]
R There are several people here working with Rebol.   The team is 
growing, but specifics are not clear yet.
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1555]
My company uses C#, C++ and VB. Nothing "open" And they are taught 
that popular means good.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1556]
R, rebol prorities roadmap is completly out of line today
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1557]
Carl mentioned making much more open source several months ago.
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1558]
question for Carl. What does beyond View, IOS means?


Is it end of life support such that there will be a whole new range 
of products from RT that will replace it (and hence ...$)