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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005

Chris
30-Sep-2005
[1517]
Is this like eFish's '7-minutes' presentation? :o)
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1518]
every year..there will be a 'too simple' to do presentation
Sunanda
30-Sep-2005
[1519]
Petr -- I agree.

Let's hope there is a "review of last year's minutes" somewhere on 
the agenda.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1520]
what about developers who need a cutting edge tool and whant to keep 
competitive level against java or php ?
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1521]
Tool, like what?
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1522]
he means Rebol, competitive Rebol, progressing Rebol :-)
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1523]
rebol of course, and i mean the new enhacements rebol is planning 
async, vid or gui, multitasking (if ever) etc...
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1524]
the way I see..pieces are fallig in place..

Carl seems to be rebuilding the rebol team (my view)
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1525]
:-)
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1526]
IMHO, it really comes down to just producing things. Make cool, useful 
apps and the programmers will come.
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1527]
GUI will continue to evolve (VID or not )...this is mention in the 
key note..and I think Reb-GUI is supporting it in that direction 
somehow
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1528]
o_0 well.... this kind of changes are good news i think
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1529]
Carl wants to have 1'000s of gadgets next year and he needs people 
to write them
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1530]
Konfab is one area that Rebol is well suited to 'replace' or at least 
showcase as an alternative technology platform
Rebolek
30-Sep-2005
[1531]
I've left my old job today and I'm looking for new one :)
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1532]
did he say what kind of gadgets?
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1533]
gui means some extended framework ?
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1534]
yeksoon: right again
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1535]
Ladislav - yes, what do you mean by those gadgets? :-)
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1536]
easy custom control, data gid for example, and some native r/view 
gadgets ?
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1537]
This discussion really begs the question about what makes a language 
popular?
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1538]
yes i agree
PhilB
30-Sep-2005
[1539]
or Is he talking about gadgets using LNS ?
Volker
30-Sep-2005
[1540]
i guess rss-readers on stereoids?
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1541]
He is answering questions now, so I will start asking in a sec.  
Starting with "When?"
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1542]
let's be honest rebol need money to grow !
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1543]
e.g. Konfab, etc.
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1544x2]
Or is it that nothing "makes" it popular. It just becomes.
Right Benjamin. At least to keep the offices open.
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1546]
open source nature makes it popular or some killer app, otherwise 
how do you explain all that hype surrounding Ruby? :-)
Volker
30-Sep-2005
[1547]
having somethig cool to plug in.
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1548]
Rebol has investors
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1549]
yes some times i fell like a child nagging daddy to go disneyland
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1550]
I will always wave the flag that Rebol needs a killer app.
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1551]
Investors? OK then - what Carl means by "rebol team" - does he mean 
extended community support, like with View 1.3 project, or are Holger, 
Jeff or anyone else coming on-board?
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1552]
R, that's right. There was a time when Commodore was thinking about 
porting Lotus 123. Personally, I think that strategy would have been 
good.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1553]
i think R/T need's a change of context, the actual time and development 
costs coud be reduced by some open code strategy  just an idea ...
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1554]
R There are several people here working with Rebol.   The team is 
growing, but specifics are not clear yet.
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1555]
My company uses C#, C++ and VB. Nothing "open" And they are taught 
that popular means good.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1556]
R, rebol prorities roadmap is completly out of line today
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1557]
Carl mentioned making much more open source several months ago.
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1558]
question for Carl. What does beyond View, IOS means?


Is it end of life support such that there will be a whole new range 
of products from RT that will replace it (and hence ...$)
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1559x3]
That was mentioned again just now!
I will talk about Beyong IOS iin just a bit.
beyond
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1562]
James, well you'r talking about BIG MS here tons of money !!!
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1563]
Yep.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1564]
take the example of MySQL ... redHat, SuSe and others...
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1565]
I think, in a way, we (the Rebol community), still believes the "a 
small group of guys can make a big difference" mentality. The "world" 
thinks that only a large company can compete.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1566]
you'r right about that