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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005

Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1534]
yeksoon: right again
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1535]
Ladislav - yes, what do you mean by those gadgets? :-)
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1536]
easy custom control, data gid for example, and some native r/view 
gadgets ?
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1537]
This discussion really begs the question about what makes a language 
popular?
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1538]
yes i agree
PhilB
30-Sep-2005
[1539]
or Is he talking about gadgets using LNS ?
Volker
30-Sep-2005
[1540]
i guess rss-readers on stereoids?
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1541]
He is answering questions now, so I will start asking in a sec.  
Starting with "When?"
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1542]
let's be honest rebol need money to grow !
Ladislav
30-Sep-2005
[1543]
e.g. Konfab, etc.
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1544x2]
Or is it that nothing "makes" it popular. It just becomes.
Right Benjamin. At least to keep the offices open.
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1546]
open source nature makes it popular or some killer app, otherwise 
how do you explain all that hype surrounding Ruby? :-)
Volker
30-Sep-2005
[1547]
having somethig cool to plug in.
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1548]
Rebol has investors
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1549]
yes some times i fell like a child nagging daddy to go disneyland
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1550]
I will always wave the flag that Rebol needs a killer app.
Pekr
30-Sep-2005
[1551]
Investors? OK then - what Carl means by "rebol team" - does he mean 
extended community support, like with View 1.3 project, or are Holger, 
Jeff or anyone else coming on-board?
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1552]
R, that's right. There was a time when Commodore was thinking about 
porting Lotus 123. Personally, I think that strategy would have been 
good.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1553]
i think R/T need's a change of context, the actual time and development 
costs coud be reduced by some open code strategy  just an idea ...
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1554]
R There are several people here working with Rebol.   The team is 
growing, but specifics are not clear yet.
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1555]
My company uses C#, C++ and VB. Nothing "open" And they are taught 
that popular means good.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1556]
R, rebol prorities roadmap is completly out of line today
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1557]
Carl mentioned making much more open source several months ago.
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1558]
question for Carl. What does beyond View, IOS means?


Is it end of life support such that there will be a whole new range 
of products from RT that will replace it (and hence ...$)
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1559x3]
That was mentioned again just now!
I will talk about Beyong IOS iin just a bit.
beyond
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1562]
James, well you'r talking about BIG MS here tons of money !!!
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1563]
Yep.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1564]
take the example of MySQL ... redHat, SuSe and others...
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1565]
I think, in a way, we (the Rebol community), still believes the "a 
small group of guys can make a big difference" mentality. The "world" 
thinks that only a large company can compete.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1566x2]
you'r right about that
still lots of cuestions become to mi mind, in todays market
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1568]
the questions gives you the answers :)
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1569]
20 years ago computing whas somthing different, now days things get 
verry competitive
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1570]
Reichart would know that, for example, that nowadays it seems to 
take big bucks to make a game. Again, I believe that's a mindset.
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1571]
and dont forget propaganda !
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1572]
Yes, propaganda. MS has adopted the IBM "Nobody ever got fired for 
buying IBM" tactic. Very successfully I might add.
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1573]
rebol community likes to go against the odds :)

the returns are better
Benjamin
30-Sep-2005
[1574]
y, i have that kind of faith too
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1575x2]
Ok, some answers on Gab's stuff.
this stuff is being tested now, ready by Nov 14.
james_nak
30-Sep-2005
[1577]
Services?
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1578]
referring to LNS?
[unknown: 9]
30-Sep-2005
[1579x3]
It will support custom servers, and there will be a public server 
that everyone can use to search for Reb Services.  For example, if 
someone offers a service like World Time, then you can search for 
this, and then start using this service.
Reb services.
Since I may have missed something, what is LNS?
yeksoon
30-Sep-2005
[1582x2]
Lightweight Network Services , IIRC
RT's product for RebServices