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Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1549] | yes some times i fell like a child nagging daddy to go disneyland |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1550] | I will always wave the flag that Rebol needs a killer app. |
Pekr 30-Sep-2005 [1551] | Investors? OK then - what Carl means by "rebol team" - does he mean extended community support, like with View 1.3 project, or are Holger, Jeff or anyone else coming on-board? |
james_nak 30-Sep-2005 [1552] | R, that's right. There was a time when Commodore was thinking about porting Lotus 123. Personally, I think that strategy would have been good. |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1553] | i think R/T need's a change of context, the actual time and development costs coud be reduced by some open code strategy just an idea ... |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1554] | R There are several people here working with Rebol. The team is growing, but specifics are not clear yet. |
james_nak 30-Sep-2005 [1555] | My company uses C#, C++ and VB. Nothing "open" And they are taught that popular means good. |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1556] | R, rebol prorities roadmap is completly out of line today |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1557] | Carl mentioned making much more open source several months ago. |
yeksoon 30-Sep-2005 [1558] | question for Carl. What does beyond View, IOS means? Is it end of life support such that there will be a whole new range of products from RT that will replace it (and hence ...$) |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1559x3] | That was mentioned again just now! |
I will talk about Beyong IOS iin just a bit. | |
beyond | |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1562] | James, well you'r talking about BIG MS here tons of money !!! |
james_nak 30-Sep-2005 [1563] | Yep. |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1564] | take the example of MySQL ... redHat, SuSe and others... |
james_nak 30-Sep-2005 [1565] | I think, in a way, we (the Rebol community), still believes the "a small group of guys can make a big difference" mentality. The "world" thinks that only a large company can compete. |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1566x2] | you'r right about that |
still lots of cuestions become to mi mind, in todays market | |
yeksoon 30-Sep-2005 [1568] | the questions gives you the answers :) |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1569] | 20 years ago computing whas somthing different, now days things get verry competitive |
james_nak 30-Sep-2005 [1570] | Reichart would know that, for example, that nowadays it seems to take big bucks to make a game. Again, I believe that's a mindset. |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1571] | and dont forget propaganda ! |
james_nak 30-Sep-2005 [1572] | Yes, propaganda. MS has adopted the IBM "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" tactic. Very successfully I might add. |
yeksoon 30-Sep-2005 [1573] | rebol community likes to go against the odds :) the returns are better |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1574] | y, i have that kind of faith too |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1575x2] | Ok, some answers on Gab's stuff. |
this stuff is being tested now, ready by Nov 14. | |
james_nak 30-Sep-2005 [1577] | Services? |
yeksoon 30-Sep-2005 [1578] | referring to LNS? |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1579x3] | It will support custom servers, and there will be a public server that everyone can use to search for Reb Services. For example, if someone offers a service like World Time, then you can search for this, and then start using this service. |
Reb services. | |
Since I may have missed something, what is LNS? | |
yeksoon 30-Sep-2005 [1582x2] | Lightweight Network Services , IIRC |
RT's product for RebServices | |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1584x4] | Ok. |
Last chance for any direct questions of Gab? | |
I should mention, Gab wrote this, and Rchard and Gab have been working with Rebol on a contract basis. | |
For specific focused features. | |
Pekr 30-Sep-2005 [1588x2] | haha, one other person, who does not actually remember what the abbreviation means :-) Maybe a good signal to change it. Most of us will refer to it as a rebservices anyway :-) |
Q: will async kernel be back? | |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1590x4] | On sec. |
Carl's goal was to move it over, but things got mixed up. Some people had problems building handlers, since there is not critical management section. So inside an asynch hander yo uput a print command, and it gets changed by other parts of the system. So it made it too complex. | |
So for now the solution is to bring it back...even soon, but he wants to solve these things first. | |
He is going to open to talk with everyone. | |
Pekr 30-Sep-2005 [1594] | OK, thanks ... when adding async back, we might actually add some thread or tasking support :-) |
Benjamin 30-Sep-2005 [1595] | but that may open the door for other developers and aplications } |
Pekr 30-Sep-2005 [1596] | ... and timers to Core of course :-) |
[unknown: 9] 30-Sep-2005 [1597x2] | Yes, we need to have a SIG group here to really review this. |
But he wants it back also. | |
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