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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005

Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1727x2]
I know it comes from Jaime's group :-) Just trying to figure out, 
what in particular BEER is. I read about BEEP it is based upon, but 
I don't understand its architecture fully. And how does it fit LNS 
- is it a competition to LNS? Or just LNS can be used upon BEER transport 
mechanisms?
.... looking at your app - so you switched to RebGUI already?
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1729x2]
Their LNS implementation uses BEER for authentication, encryption, 
and transport.
I started on the GUI a month ago, and with BEER a week or so ago 
to implement the communication protocols.
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1731x2]
GPL is weird license though, so mayou you should wait for LNS ....
and use Uniserve instead ...
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1733x2]
So, looks like we have three implementations now of LNS,  one from 
Jaime, one from Gabriele, and one from Carl.
It doesn't matter as I am not selling this application .. just personal 
use.
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1735x2]
I think not - Gabriele works imo for RT on the contractual basis 
...
... so actually what Gab showed yesterday was official LNS part ...
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1737]
Well, may be two ... but I presume Carl implemented something before 
he contracted Gabriele and Richard.
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1738]
yes, he did - Gab is imo just finishing LNS upon Carl's direction 
....
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1739x3]
Well, the BEER one works well enough for me .. though the documentation 
is a little light still.
Yes, I switched to using RebGUI as an experiment, and continued working 
with it as it continues to fufill my requirements.
Ashley is in the business of building database applications so we 
share similar GUI needs :)
yeksoon
1-Oct-2005
[1742]
Graham , you are  one of those 'wierd' pple in the community as well.


From my understanding, you are  a medical doctor by profession, right?...and 
yet..u seems to be facinated by computing (and rebol).
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1743]
weird ??
yeksoon
1-Oct-2005
[1744]
not in the normal sense
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1745]
Rebol is a tool, and I need a tool to do things.  Such as building 
my EMR/CRM.
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1746]
Graham - yeksoon is probably not native englisham either - may he 
just means "strange"? :-)
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1747x2]
I''m a Renaissance man :)
Anyway, it is really quite impressive how the BEER async stuff works 
with RebGUI
Allen
1-Oct-2005
[1749]
Is there a link for BEER?
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1750x3]
no.
But Jaime said he was going to release it at Devcon.
Be prepared and get yourselves a SIT decompressor :(
yeksoon
1-Oct-2005
[1753]
haha.. he should be able to gzip it
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1754x3]
Well, I guess Mac people use SIT as a matter of course.
If you try out the EMR above, select the patient "Mickey Mouse". 
 He has scanned images in his results which can be downloaded while 
looking at consultations.
async is done using call backs as in atcp.  So, if I request a list 
of patient results, my call back function receives the data, and 
redisplays the pertinent list.
yeksoon
1-Oct-2005
[1757x2]
Reichart, just sent a message via QTask..that they are having difficulties 
accessing AltMe,


I have copied Pekr's list of questions to QTask so that he can follow 
up on it.
if anyone have questions, it will be good to post it to QTask..if 
you have access.


Reichart will ask the questions after his talk.. (which is the last 
one)....and that will be like morning time for the pple in the States.
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1759x2]
Graham - btw - dunno if RebGUI problem or just incorrect definition 
in your code, but try to maximize your window - you will see the 
list of patients (left-bottom corner) resizes incorrectly.
going to lunch, have a fine time here folks ... hopefully you will 
get someone from conference on-line here ...
Henrik
1-Oct-2005
[1761]
graham: Sit isn't much popular anymore though still in use by some. 
The most popular way to pack mac programs is with dmg or tar.gz or 
tar.bz, since this can be done out of the box, but .sit can't.
Chris
1-Oct-2005
[1762]
Possibly too little too late -- but here is an open DevCon wiki for 
any info we have from the DevCon -- http://www.ross-gill.com/devcon05/
-- you can edit as soon as you register (for a short time)
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1763x2]
Looking at map I can see we have some folks located in Australia 
- so after US and EU, will next devcon be in Asia or Australia? :-)
I am just curious - if Cyphre was showing new rich-text capabilities, 
it has to be present in View kernel already - maybe he could release 
a small demo for us? :-)
yeksoon
1-Oct-2005
[1765]
Asia-AU-or-NZ ?....


or we can shift to South America :)... Czech is fine as well..I would 
think
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1766]
Yes, Prague (CZ) is really a nice town, old one ....
PhilB
1-Oct-2005
[1767]
So I guess its all over for anther year ...... just the Banquet to 
go ....
yeksoon
1-Oct-2005
[1768]
so much more to achieve... makes time flies by so fast..
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1769]
so DevCon is nearly over, and we still don't have answer to question, 
how Carl wants to x-fold the Rebol world acceptance :-)
Benjamin
1-Oct-2005
[1770]
wee verry few activity today, as far i see, what about Pekr questions 
?
Pekr
1-Oct-2005
[1771x3]
I am no Qtask and no answers were posted yet ...
I think that folks will be enjoying evening banquet in 10 minutes, 
so we will have to wait till tomorrow ....
/me leaving now too to visit my friends ...
Benjamin
1-Oct-2005
[1774]
yes, it's a sunny saturday to nice to be here...
Graham
1-Oct-2005
[1775]
Pekr, yes there are still resizing issues with RebGUI and Ashley 
has stated that he is working on this.
Terry
1-Oct-2005
[1776]
Graham, I see you have Mickey Mouse on methadone.. isn't that a breach 
of patient/physcian privacy?