World: r3wp

going to bed too .... waiting for news for 4 days is enough :-) .... 
will let it go now, to morrow I will have to do some real work, so 
potential news will not hit me as much as it would otherwise :-)

Just arrived at home from the DevCon. They have been 4 beautiful 
days, I learnt a lot and have recharged my batteries too. Thank you 
to everybody because I met a lot of  kind and friendly rebolers.

Report please!!!

ti would like to read more about BEER is there any onlie documentation 
or wiki ?

nope.

This dearth of information is somewhat of a kill joy :(

You'll survive. :)

But badly scarred by the experience !

Aye, if we keep going in this direction, by next years conference 
we'll have to PAY.. and still not get any info

:)

maybe next year there will be no conference at all :-)

Or, maybe there will be two conferences!

maybe we should switch to more "reliable" and proven tools as IRC? 
:-) Even back in 96 I do remember moderated Amiga shows on IRC, where 
hundreds of ppl were logged to chat with Amiga representatives. IMO 
in fact it is a mistake of organisers not scheduling e-QA session 
with Carl ... that should imo become natural part of such events 
...

IRC doesn't work without a network connection

It's the venue that presented a challenge, apparently. They had some 
nice plans but firewalls sort of foiled everything.

IIRC is mostly common and I wonder if IRC ports are blocked :-) Even 
our company allows ports like ICQ or IRC upon written request ....

I think the lesson for next year would be "hold it someplace where 
you know you can get to the outside world," because the rest of us 
get a little cranky :-)

I wonder if there was no single notebook with GPRS connection? Even 
I have one and we are quite not so rich country you know :-)

Make no assumptions ...

Lucky so-and-so. I don't have a GPRS. I don't even know what it is.

o_0

it is PCMCIA card, holding your GSM card - basically a GSM connection, 
packed based - so you are accounted for how many of data you transfer, 
not for how long you "talk".

allows global wireless roaming at about 14kbs

ah, ok. Thanks

I guess it is being replaced now by 3G.

so basically your cell-phone in PCMCIA slot, using packet based connection. 
All three mobile operators provide it here. There is not even newer 
standard, called EDGE, which runs upon that and allows speed up to 
150kbit, which is nice for basically cell-phone connection ...

what about edge ? doens't suposed to go about 48kbs ¿?

3G is run on a long distance .... at least here ...

That does sound pretty good. I just use WiFi at home and the local 
coffee shops.

hoo i see

EDGE is here already too, just your GSM stations have to support 
that and here in CZ such are only in big towns yet ....

but even one single GPRS connection is very fine for things like 
AltME and to obey firewall problems .... actually, I am writing now 
from my notebook at my work, so via GPRS, otherwise our company uses 
really strict firewall policies :-)

what about SMS ? could be easy to deliver text this whay ?

SMS? Not sure - it is only some 160 chars ... not so reliable .... 
costst money ...

I have really relatively cheap GPRS connection, unlimited data, 24/7 
for some 40 USD ....

wherever I travell in CZ, and I can reach the signal of my GSM provider, 
then I am on internet ....

streaming seems the better choice, i still dont know why this wasn't 
possible at devcon

yes, of course - thewere was problem with firewall at the place devcon 
took place. But streaming does take large thougput - the thing is 
- there was no single GPRS connection, so we not only missed streaming, 
but we were basically cut-off of any info, untill Reichart/Jiame 
managed connection for a short period of time or Reichart used QTask 
to provide us with some info ...

well... this kind of things shoud be known prior the conference dont 
you think, as far i know this whas just a pizza party in italy, we 
work with computers, dont we ?

I suspect some rather embarrassed faces will appear in a few days 
...

heh. yeah.

I will assume GPRS charges will be different once you travel overseas...with 
global roamin account etc

yes GPRS is an expensive whay to do things.

Yek. if 30% of rebol comunity whas at DevCon, how many members do 
you think rebol has ?

17 ;-)

within RT?

GPRS is not expensive at all. Of course Roamed it is expensive, but 
I assume at least one Itallian could have GPRS available :-)

o_0

Benjamin - there were 30 ppl, not 30% :-) But even then, we are really 
small imo ...

yes including RT