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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005

Brock
4-Oct-2005
[2092]
Jean-Francois: I downloaded BitComet, but I am a newbie at this stuff 
as well, so not sure if this has spyware or not.  Haven't noticed 
any spyware at this point, but I'm sure I haven't run all the necessary 
cleaners to be sure.
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2093]
what's wrong with the original bittorrent client? (ok, quite raw, 
but as long as the file is downloaded...)
Luca
4-Oct-2005
[2094]
I'm downloading at 140kB/s using ABC 2.6.5. I don't know about any 
spyware but it doesn't mean that there are not.
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2095]
for anybody on a modem, when all the movies are done and uploaded 
I can burn a cd and send
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2096]
ABC doesn't have spyware. Any torrent client will do, as the speed 
mostly depends on the seeders - the client overhead is negligable. 
I used Azureus, worked fine.
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2097]
have bittorrent running and sharing right now/who is 66.130.241.94 
?
Graham
4-Oct-2005
[2098]
The advantage of using a new client over the original is that in 
the new clients you can control the bandwidth.  If you don't want 
the torrent client to soak up all your bandwidth .. use a new one.
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2099]
The original client is OK if you are downloading one torrent and 
don't care to keep track of the file after you downloaded it. If 
you download multiple torrents It is better to have a queuing client 
like Azureus.
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2100]
can not seem to find the free version of Azureus :(
Graham
4-Oct-2005
[2101x2]
all versions of azureus are free.
try sourceforge
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2103x2]
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
Presentation works fine here. Media Player Classic, 3ivx decoder, 
all standard stuff right out of the K-Lite codec pack.
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2105]
getting thanks !
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2106x3]
Here's the K-Lite Mega Pack download location, also with Real and 
Quicktime support without their players, no spyware:  http://www.codecguide.com/download_mega.htm
For those with Windows, though.
Someone's autofocus is a little inconsistent, but the audio is good 
enough.
Luca
4-Oct-2005
[2109]
I'll keep my bittorrent running to contribute the downloading.
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2110]
Mine's still up too :)
Gabriele
4-Oct-2005
[2111]
yep autofocus had big problems with the flat bg of show05
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2112]
Ammon - dunnof of what are you talking about - who actually was rude 
to Hether from VitalNeeds on ml? Do not remember anything like that 
...
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2113x2]
re:Azureus,what port are you guys using ?using 6881 i get = NAT Error
same with 6883 ?
Tomc
4-Oct-2005
[2115]
Pekr I remember discovering evidence people were rude to her at her 
previous job ...
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2116x2]
Alan, do you have a firewall appliance? If so, you need to open a 
port. If the firewall appliance has UPNP support, Azureus can open 
the port for you automatically if you tell it to. BitTorrent is a 
two-way protocol.
It is also best to tell Azureus to do all of its communications over 
a single port (this may not be optional now). Some ISPs also block 
or slow down the standard BitTorrent ports, so you may want to change 
that port 6881 to something like 50000.
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2118x3]
BriahH;yes a belkin router and I told it via the congig window to 
allow ports 6881-6883 to be open,but still getting a nat error :( 
?
same with port 50000
tried to find my port docs to see what other tcp/udp ports I cna 
use
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2121]
Do you also have the XP SP2 firewall or some other software firewall 
installed?
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2122]
yes all the latest patches plus ZoneAlarm Pro
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2123]
Well, ZoneAlarm may be causing the problem. What software in particular 
throws the NAT Error, and does it provide more detail?
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2124]
I am trying to config Azureus and getting the problem when it comes 
to the port dialog page
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2125]
TCP  	 	6881  	 	6881  	 	6881  	
TCP 		6969 		6969 		6969 
UDP 		6881 		6881 		6881
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2126]
Oh, the autoconfig wizard. You can ignore that error for now - it 
is probably caused by proxy settings or some such. As long as at 
least some of the seeders are poked through their NATs or otherwise 
visible to the net, you should still be able to download.
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2127]
Those are my settings for Azureus taken from my xDSL modem NAT
Graham
4-Oct-2005
[2128]
You need to make sure that the router also forwards the port to your 
ip address.
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2129]
Later you can tweak the settings to make it run faster.
Graham
4-Oct-2005
[2130]
For those that have firewall problems, suggest that they do the http 
download.
Pekr
4-Oct-2005
[2131]
Yes, simply catch those three ports and NAT (translate/forward) them 
to your internal IP address - address of PC azureus is installed 
on ...
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2132]
Graham:got the files via torrent just trying to set up Azureus
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2133x2]
My Netgear NAT/firewall appliance does this automatically with UPNP. 
I think the Belkin supports that too.
Be sure to not forward the remote control port (default 6883) beyond 
the firewall though, or other people can make your computer download 
stuff.
Jean-François
4-Oct-2005
[2135]
It's the first time I'm using Bittorent . What does Seeds 4(6) and 
Peers 0(1) mean ?
Alan
4-Oct-2005
[2136]
think it means that there are 6 ppl with the torrent and 4 are online/the 
other not sure about
Graham
4-Oct-2005
[2137x2]
It means there are 6 people who are seeding ( ie. they are not downloading 
), and you are connected to 4 of them, and there is 1 peer ( who 
is downloading ), but 0 connected to you.
ie. you are not uploading to anyone.
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2139]
Everyone that is downloading or has downloaded the file(s) is a peer, 
part of the swarm, until they disconnect. What Azureus calls a Peer 
is someone who hasn't finished downloading yet - this was traditionally 
referred to as a Leach, but some people got offended. A seed is someone 
who has the whole file(s) and is still connected to the torrent to 
provide the file(s) to those who are still downloading.


When it says Seeds 4(6) and Peers 0(1), it means the tracker can 
see 6 "seeds" but you are actually connected to 4, and that the tracker 
can see 4 "peers" but you aren't connected to any of them. If you 
are behind a NAT your external IP address is different, so you may 
be in either the peer or seed set, one of the ones you aren't connected 
to.


You may also be connected to others through DHT, a kind of distributed 
tracker. The regular tracker won't necessarily see those, so you 
can't assume that the 4 seeds you are connected to are all part of 
the 6 that the tracker sees, for instance. This only matters when 
you are connecting to shaky tracker sites or those that enforce friendly 
upload/download ratios.
Graham
4-Oct-2005
[2140]
1 peer
BrianH
4-Oct-2005
[2141]
On a more DevCon-related note:

Maarten, thanks for mentioning the posting of the experimental rebcode 
support! I have been going through it, figuring out how to improve 
the assembler and such. Fun!