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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005
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Gabriele 12-Oct-2005 [2451] | HTTP links for Visit... and Discussion... : http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/videos/Visitto Rome and Milan.mp4 http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/videos/Discussionsand Banquet.mp4 |
DideC 12-Oct-2005 [2452] | I'm unable to read the "Visit to Rome" video on QT7under Windows !! Downloaded 2 times, but QT still said that there is "MPEG-4 technologie not handled for the moment" It said that it use the "MPEG quantification" (French words) |
Luca 12-Oct-2005 [2453] | I have had the same problem, I saw the video using VLC |
Gabriele 12-Oct-2005 [2454] | yep, visit to rome is somewhat experimental, i encoded it with VLC; i hoped for it to be more compatible... but it looks like it is less compatible :( |
[unknown: 9] 12-Oct-2005 [2455] | So now that you guys have watched some of the videos, do you think this DevCon was cool? |
Jean-François 13-Oct-2005 [2456] | Judging from the activity on rebol3, it realy looks like it recharged the batteries of everyone present ... and thanks for including the rest of the community with the videos. |
eFishAnt 13-Oct-2005 [2457] | Devcon2004 was like the Pentacost, Devcon2005 seems like the overthrow of the Microsoft Empire, similar to what happened to Rome in early AD's |
[unknown: 9] 13-Oct-2005 [2458] | Uh, er....Rome fell.... |
eFishAnt 13-Oct-2005 [2459] | and so will Microsoft. They don't stand a chance now, after watching several videos... |
Kaj 13-Oct-2005 [2460x2] | Yes, I do feel recharged :-) |
But I wouldn't count out Babylon yet... | |
eFishAnt 13-Oct-2005 [2462x2] | Babylon is the mainstream state of the art...REBOL brings communications back to mankind... |
(was meaning tower of Babble) | |
Benjamin 13-Oct-2005 [2464] | The camera man whas drunk ? ;-) Reichart it whas realy cool, i can't watched all the videos today but i'will download them later |
Brett 14-Oct-2005 [2465] | I appreciated being able to see the videos. Facial expressions and tone of speech convey a lot information. Generally, the presentations were interesting - providing good "food for thought". One item out of many, was Gregg's turtle metaphor - a great idea. Leaves you with a new way of looking at things, which is what is great about REBOL itself. Good to see a varied set of participants there too. "Devcon was cool?" - I think the coolest thing was an apparent gathering of momentum and intent going forward. Good stuff. |
BrianH 14-Oct-2005 [2466] | The occasional focus changes were due to a bad autofocus situation. Any aleged drunkenness on the part of the cameraman wouldn't have affected the picture :) |
eFishAnt 14-Oct-2005 [2467x2] | Brett, I also grokked Gregg's "turtle" hunting metaphor. Already I have filled more than a page of inspirations from it. Here is a sampling of my found design patterns, mostly in REBOL which are powerful "turtles" which are concrete examples of what Gregg said: 1. View console where a user can type VID/View lines, and hit return to see what they do. 2. Using print statements to the console from a View script to understand it (so easy to do protytping) 3. Parts of layout.r IDE with Nubs, and you generate scripts (which are human readible) from the GUI. 4. The source and help systems built-in to REBOL 5. Arexx for Inter-App-Messaging (I listened intently to Gab's Reb/Services talk saying "Arexx of the X-Internet") 6. awk file parsing. (I know Gregg wrote rawk.r a while back) ... "Turtle hunting" challenges us to develop more of these. |
7. make-doc where you type text in that simple dialect and produce typeset quality results. 8. show where you type text in that simple dialect and produce professional quality presentations. | |
Allen 15-Oct-2005 [2469] | Business Ideas grants closing soon. (Australians only). http://about.sensis.com.au/big/ |
Louis 15-Oct-2005 [2470x2] | I would like to learn from you men's experience. What is the best path to getting started in video podcasting? |
What is better for video podcasting, MP3 or MP4? | |
Allen 15-Oct-2005 [2472] | (wierd, could have sworn I posted above to "Tech News", not "devcon2005") |
Gabriele 16-Oct-2005 [2473] | MP3 = audio; MP4 = video. |
Louis 16-Oct-2005 [2474] | Gabriele, oh. Makes a difference! |
Joe 16-Oct-2005 [2475x2] | Gabriele, Thanks for providing all the Devcon videos (that really helps improve the remote attendance!) |
It's a shame I can not watch the videos with my DVD player. I just bought a cheap (40 euro) dvd player that plays zones 1/2 and MP4. I've copied the NerdTV MP4 interviews (see links) and have enjoyed quite a lot watching that on TV rather than the monitor ... but the devcon videos don't play (probably because of the MP4 profile and the audio not being MP3/WMA) | |
Gabriele 16-Oct-2005 [2477] | you could reencode them to fit your player. |
Pekr 16-Oct-2005 [2478] | what would be their size if would be encoded using divx or xvid? Even the cheapest DVD players do support such codecs .... |
Joe 16-Oct-2005 [2479x3] | Yes, I thought about using transcode in linux. It's a shame all the variations don't make MP4 use as smooth as it could be. e.g. on Linux Fedora4 I could only get audio+video for your experimental encoding (trips to rome .. BTW, what is the band playing the background music ?) . For the other files I could only get video but no audio so I had to check it in windows XP SP1 (where latest quicktime and media player wouldn't play them (quicktime said incompatible profile) but an old VLC release played them fine) |
Pekr, for the MP4 CD I got to fit about 7 hours of NerdTV. I don't think transcoding would change the size much . I think divx/xvid is similar compression | |
divx is actually an implementation of MP4 | |
Gabriele 17-Oct-2005 [2482x2] | yes, xvid and divx are a variation on the MPEG4 standard (created when MPEG4 was not yet approved as a standard IIRC) |
note that ffmpeg's mpeg4 is playable by divx and vice versa | |
eFishAnt 17-Oct-2005 [2484] | I think Maarten sounds like Sean Connery...watching his talk from Devcon |
Maarten 17-Oct-2005 [2485x3] | And almost as bald ;-) |
But thanks, you just lost one REBOL to the monie business :-) | |
monie=movie | |
Pekr 17-Oct-2005 [2488] | btw - looking at Carl slides, there was a question of where to do Devcon next year? Were there any tips? Or will it be Czech Republic? :-) |
Henrik 17-Oct-2005 [2489] | wasn't Paris mentioned? |
Geomol 17-Oct-2005 [2490] | Yes, there was some talk about Paris for next year DevCon. |
JaimeVargas 17-Oct-2005 [2491] | Yep. It seems it will be Paris, but maybe the Czech's can compete for it ;-) |
Pekr 17-Oct-2005 [2492x3] | ok, France sounds good - there is rather active community there, although this year, there was only one person from France, no? |
Prague is nice/historical town too :-) | |
And Jaime would surely prefer CZ, as we have the best beer here and Jaime likes Beer! (at least as a product/framework) :-) | |
JaimeVargas 17-Oct-2005 [2495x2] | And as drink ;-) |
Czech Republic is quite beautiful from history Praha, to Industrious Liberec (Bohemia), too beautiful country in Krazenko (Moldavia). I certainly enjoyed my short visit there. | |
Ladislav 17-Oct-2005 [2497] | ...and we didn't manage to show you the Czech Paradise, Jizera Mountains, Jested view, ... |
[unknown: 9] 17-Oct-2005 [2498] | We should put it to a vote. I vote in Czech, although does not need to be Prague. |
Rebolek 17-Oct-2005 [2499] | Jamie: That Moldavia is Moravia actually. The biggest difference is that Moldavia has access to sea and we don't ;) |
JaimeVargas 17-Oct-2005 [2500] | I vote alsoe for Czech. It is also more affordable. Specially if hosted outside of Prague. |
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