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[DevCon2005] DevCon 2005

Gabriele
12-Oct-2005
[2451]
HTTP links for Visit... and Discussion... :


http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/videos/Visitto Rome and Milan.mp4

http://www.colellachiara.com/devcon05/videos/Discussionsand Banquet.mp4
DideC
12-Oct-2005
[2452]
I'm unable to read the "Visit to Rome" video on QT7under Windows 
!!

Downloaded 2 times, but QT still said that there is "MPEG-4 technologie 
not handled for the moment"
It said that it use the "MPEG quantification" (French words)
Luca
12-Oct-2005
[2453]
I have had the same problem, I saw the video using VLC
Gabriele
12-Oct-2005
[2454]
yep, visit to rome is somewhat experimental, i encoded it with VLC; 
i hoped for it to be more compatible... but it looks like it is less 
compatible :(
[unknown: 9]
12-Oct-2005
[2455]
So now that you guys have watched some of the videos, do you think 
this DevCon was cool?
Jean-François
13-Oct-2005
[2456]
Judging from the activity on rebol3,  it realy looks like it recharged 
the batteries of everyone present ... and thanks for including the 
rest of the community with the videos.
eFishAnt
13-Oct-2005
[2457]
Devcon2004 was like the Pentacost, Devcon2005 seems like the overthrow 
of the Microsoft Empire, similar to what happened to Rome in early 
AD's
[unknown: 9]
13-Oct-2005
[2458]
Uh, er....Rome fell....
eFishAnt
13-Oct-2005
[2459]
and so will Microsoft.  They don't stand a chance now, after watching 
several videos...
Kaj
13-Oct-2005
[2460x2]
Yes, I do feel recharged :-)
But I wouldn't count out Babylon yet...
eFishAnt
13-Oct-2005
[2462x2]
Babylon is the mainstream state of the art...REBOL brings communications 
back to mankind...
(was meaning tower of Babble)
Benjamin
13-Oct-2005
[2464]
The camera man whas drunk ? ;-) Reichart it whas realy cool, i can't 
watched all the videos today but i'will download them later
Brett
14-Oct-2005
[2465]
I appreciated being able to see the videos. Facial expressions and 
tone of speech convey a lot information. Generally, the presentations 
were interesting - providing good "food for thought". One item out 
of many, was Gregg's turtle metaphor - a great idea. Leaves you with 
a new way of looking at things, which is what is great about REBOL 
itself.  Good to see a varied set of participants there too.  "Devcon 
was cool?" - I think the coolest thing was an apparent gathering 
of momentum and intent going forward. Good stuff.
BrianH
14-Oct-2005
[2466]
The occasional focus changes were due to a bad autofocus situation. 
Any aleged drunkenness on the part of the cameraman wouldn't have 
affected the picture :)
eFishAnt
14-Oct-2005
[2467x2]
Brett, I also grokked Gregg's "turtle" hunting metaphor.  Already 
I have filled more than a page of inspirations from it.  Here is 
a sampling of  my found design patterns, mostly in REBOL which are 
powerful "turtles" which are concrete examples of what Gregg said:


1. View console where a user can type VID/View lines, and hit return 
to see what they do.

2. Using print statements to the console from a View script to understand 
it (so easy to do protytping)

3. Parts of layout.r IDE with Nubs, and you generate scripts (which 
are human readible) from the GUI.
4. The source and help systems built-in to REBOL

5. Arexx for Inter-App-Messaging (I listened intently to Gab's Reb/Services 
talk saying "Arexx of the X-Internet")
6. awk file parsing. (I know Gregg wrote rawk.r a while back)

... "Turtle hunting" challenges us to develop more of these.
7. make-doc where you type text in that simple dialect and produce 
typeset quality results.

8. show where you type text in that simple dialect and produce professional 
quality presentations.
Allen
15-Oct-2005
[2469]
Business Ideas grants closing soon. (Australians only). http://about.sensis.com.au/big/
Louis
15-Oct-2005
[2470x2]
I would like to learn from you men's experience. What is the best 
path to getting started in video podcasting?
What is better for video podcasting, MP3 or MP4?
Allen
15-Oct-2005
[2472]
(wierd, could have sworn I posted above to "Tech News", not "devcon2005")
Gabriele
16-Oct-2005
[2473]
MP3 = audio; MP4 = video.
Louis
16-Oct-2005
[2474]
Gabriele, oh. Makes a difference!
Joe
16-Oct-2005
[2475x2]
Gabriele, Thanks for providing all the Devcon videos (that really 
helps improve the remote attendance!)
It's a shame I can not watch the videos with my DVD player. I  just 
bought a cheap (40 euro) dvd player that plays zones 1/2 and MP4. 
I've copied the NerdTV MP4 interviews (see links) and have enjoyed 
quite a lot watching that on TV rather than the monitor ... but the 
devcon videos don't play (probably because of the MP4 profile and 
the audio not being MP3/WMA)
Gabriele
16-Oct-2005
[2477]
you could reencode them to fit your player.
Pekr
16-Oct-2005
[2478]
what would be their size if would be encoded using divx or xvid? 
Even the cheapest DVD players do support such codecs ....
Joe
16-Oct-2005
[2479x3]
Yes, I thought about using transcode in linux. It's a shame all the 
variations don't make MP4 use as smooth as it could be. e.g. on Linux 
Fedora4 I could only get audio+video for your experimental encoding 
(trips to rome .. BTW, what is the band playing the background music 
?) . For the other files I could only get video but no audio so I 
had to check it in windows XP SP1 (where latest quicktime  and media 
player wouldn't play them (quicktime said incompatible profile) but 
an old VLC release played them fine)
Pekr, for the MP4 CD I got to fit about 7 hours of NerdTV. I don't 
think transcoding would change the size much . I think divx/xvid 
is similar compression
divx is actually an implementation of MP4
Gabriele
17-Oct-2005
[2482x2]
yes, xvid and divx are a variation on the MPEG4 standard (created 
when MPEG4 was not yet approved as a standard IIRC)
note that ffmpeg's mpeg4 is playable by divx and vice versa
eFishAnt
17-Oct-2005
[2484]
I think Maarten sounds like Sean Connery...watching his talk from 
Devcon
Maarten
17-Oct-2005
[2485x3]
And almost as bald ;-)
But thanks, you just lost one REBOL to the monie business :-)
monie=movie
Pekr
17-Oct-2005
[2488]
btw - looking at Carl slides, there was a question of where to do 
Devcon next year? Were there any tips? Or will it be Czech Republic? 
:-)
Henrik
17-Oct-2005
[2489]
wasn't Paris mentioned?
Geomol
17-Oct-2005
[2490]
Yes, there was some talk about Paris for next year DevCon.
JaimeVargas
17-Oct-2005
[2491]
Yep. It seems it will be Paris, but maybe the Czech's can compete 
for it ;-)
Pekr
17-Oct-2005
[2492x3]
ok, France sounds good - there is rather active community there, 
although this year, there was only one person from France, no?
Prague is nice/historical town too :-)
And Jaime would surely prefer CZ, as we have the best beer here and 
Jaime likes Beer! (at least as a product/framework) :-)
JaimeVargas
17-Oct-2005
[2495x2]
And as drink ;-)
Czech Republic is quite beautiful from history Praha, to Industrious 
Liberec (Bohemia), too beautiful country in Krazenko (Moldavia). 
I certainly enjoyed my short visit there.
Ladislav
17-Oct-2005
[2497]
...and we didn't manage to show you the Czech Paradise, Jizera Mountains, 
Jested view, ...
[unknown: 9]
17-Oct-2005
[2498]
We should put it to a vote.  I vote in Czech, although does not need 
to be Prague.
Rebolek
17-Oct-2005
[2499]
Jamie: That Moldavia is Moravia actually. The biggest difference 
is that Moldavia has access to sea and we don't ;)
JaimeVargas
17-Oct-2005
[2500]
I vote alsoe for Czech. It is also more affordable. Specially if 
hosted outside of Prague.